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We only deal with the private ones on this forum. You can post your questions about the council ones here:Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on)As for the two private ones you have received, I suggest you create separate thread for each one as they are both different companies. One thing is sure, you will not be paying either of them if you follow the advice.I suggest you use this thread for the APCOA one and start a new one for the other.We will need to see the original Parking Charge Notices (PCNs) you received, redacting only your personal details, the PCN number and the VRM of the vehicle. Make sure you leave everything else visible, especially all dates and times.Also, we will need to see exactly what you put in your appeals.READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide