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APCOA Heathrow drop off parking charge notice
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Hi,

Apologies as this topic has been asked before - I have seen numerous posts about this situation but just wanted to make sure that I do everything right and was looking for some guidance. I forgot to pay for the drop off charge at heathrow and I have recently received a letter from them giving notice and asking for £80 (£40 within 14 days). I understand that I can just appeal and they should cancel as people were advised on other posts.

Here is the letter I received: https://ibb.co/8srQV3d

Do I appeal on their online portal? When I appeal I was planning on using this text (found on another post on this site)


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This Parking Charge Notice ("PCN") was issued to me as the registered keeper of the vehicle, and I am appealing as such. Heathrow Airport (including the drop-off zone) is not “relevant land” for the purposes of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (as it is covered by airport bye-laws), so the operator cannot transfer liability to the keeper. Furthermore, even if (which is not the case) the drop off zone is relevant land, the PCN does not comply with the requirements of the POFA, Schedule 4, paragraph 9. As there is no legal requirement for the registered keeper to identify the driver, I will not be doing so.


APCOA cannot hold a registered keeper liable. As a matter of fact and law, APCOA (as a longstanding BPA Parking operator) will be well aware that they cannot use the POFA provisions because this is not 'relevant land'. If the Airport wanted to hold owners or keepers liable under Airport Byelaws, that would be within the landowner's gift and another matter entirely, but not only is that not pleaded, it is also not legally possible because APCOA is not the Airport owner and your 'parking charge' is not and never attempts to be a penalty. It is created for APCOA’s own profit (as opposed to a byelaws penalty that goes to the public purse) and APCOA has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only. The registered keeper was not that driver and cannot be presumed to have been, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency.
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The other day, a parking enforcement officer stopped me and said “You can’t park here. It’s badge holders only.”
I looked them in the eye and said, “Good to know - I do have a bad shoulder."
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You build a hundred bridges: nothing.
You build two hundred houses: silence.
You sort out ONE parking ticket: “Hey can you help post on FTLA and sort out my PCN real quick?
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Re: APCOA Heathrow drop off parking charge notice
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That's the one to use. They will cancel it, allegedly as a gesture of goodwill but we all know they simply cannot enforce it. They'll also tell you stop being such a naughty person by marching their made up rules.

Have laugh at their expense.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
Re: APCOA Heathrow drop off parking charge notice
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#3
That's the one to use. They will cancel it, allegedly as a gesture of goodwill but we all know they simply cannot enforce it. They'll also tell you stop being such a naughty person by marching their made up rules.

Have laugh at their expense.

Thank you for your response. I went to appeal and they ask for the reason for challenge. What should I put down?

https://ibb.co/BGTWb4y
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The other day, a parking enforcement officer stopped me and said “You can’t park here. It’s badge holders only.”
I looked them in the eye and said, “Good to know - I do have a bad shoulder."
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You build a hundred bridges: nothing.
You build two hundred houses: silence.
You sort out ONE parking ticket: “Hey can you help post on FTLA and sort out my PCN real quick?
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Re: APCOA Heathrow drop off parking charge notice
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#4
Assuming you are the registered keeper of the vehicle with the V5C in your name, yes that template should do the trick.

Do I appeal on their online portal?
Again yes, but be careful that there aren't any sneaky tick boxes etc. requiring you to say who was driving.
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#6
What should I put down?
Other.

Thank you. Everytime I try to appeal I keep getting hit by an error:

https://ibb.co/bRqb4Qv
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The other day, a parking enforcement officer stopped me and said “You can’t park here. It’s badge holders only.”
I looked them in the eye and said, “Good to know - I do have a bad shoulder."
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You build a hundred bridges: nothing.
You build two hundred houses: silence.
You sort out ONE parking ticket: “Hey can you help post on FTLA and sort out my PCN real quick?
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Re: APCOA Heathrow drop off parking charge notice
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#7
Try again later and/or tomorrow. If the issue persists a backup option is to appeal by post. But keep trying for now.
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Ok thank you guys very much for your advice. Ill keep trying
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The other day, a parking enforcement officer stopped me and said “You can’t park here. It’s badge holders only.”
I looked them in the eye and said, “Good to know - I do have a bad shoulder."
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You build a hundred bridges: nothing.
You build two hundred houses: silence.
You sort out ONE parking ticket: “Hey can you help post on FTLA and sort out my PCN real quick?
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Re: APCOA Heathrow drop off parking charge notice
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#9
If you have a choice, always select "other". Just don't select anything that says "driver".
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
Re: APCOA Heathrow drop off parking charge notice
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#10
I tried to appeal today but it the portal will not let me proceed as it can not find the ticket. Will this come back to haunt me later on?

https://ibb.co/kKBHK8D
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The other day, a parking enforcement officer stopped me and said “You can’t park here. It’s badge holders only.”
I looked them in the eye and said, “Good to know - I do have a bad shoulder."
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You build a hundred bridges: nothing.
You build two hundred houses: silence.
You sort out ONE parking ticket: “Hey can you help post on FTLA and sort out my PCN real quick?
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Re: APCOA Heathrow drop off parking charge notice
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Try here: https://heathrowdropoffpcnpayments.apcoa.com/

That did the trick, thanks! I have submitted the appeal, I guess its just a waiting game now.
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The other day, a parking enforcement officer stopped me and said “You can’t park here. It’s badge holders only.”
I looked them in the eye and said, “Good to know - I do have a bad shoulder."
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You build a hundred bridges: nothing.
You build two hundred houses: silence.
You sort out ONE parking ticket: “Hey can you help post on FTLA and sort out my PCN real quick?
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Re: APCOA Heathrow drop off parking charge notice
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#13
I received a letter stating that they have on this occasion cancelled the ticket. Thank you DWMB2 and b789 for all your help!
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The other day, a parking enforcement officer stopped me and said “You can’t park here. It’s badge holders only.”
I looked them in the eye and said, “Good to know - I do have a bad shoulder."
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You build a hundred bridges: nothing.
You build two hundred houses: silence.
You sort out ONE parking ticket: “Hey can you help post on FTLA and sort out my PCN real quick?
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