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Re: LBCCC - Central Parking Partnership = University Hospital Coventry
« Reply #15 on: »
and then this one as well received this morning......

Dear Mr ......,

Thank you for your correspondence received in relation to the above referenced Parking Charge. We have been passed this as we note you have raised a data query.

Please find attached the ANPR entry, exit and images we hold relating to your vehicle pertaining to the date of 24/05/2025
 
Please note that we only retain non-contravening data captured by our ANPR systems for 6 months and non-contravening images for 90 days.
 
Unfortunately, the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act only applies to public sector organisations. As Parkingeye is a private company, the provisions within that legislation relating to the release of information do not apply in this instance. This notwithstanding, you are able to make a request for access to the data we hold about you, should you wish to do so. Please note that a Request for Access only entitles you to information about, or copies of, your own personal data. On this basis, the more general requests you have made for documentation, such as for a copy of contractual arrangements with the landowner and certifications will not fall within the remit of our response and such documentation will not be provided at this stage.

Please note that the UK General Data Protection Regulation provides the following further rights:

•             The right to request from CPP rectification or erasure of your personal data;

•             The right to request from CPP restriction of processing of your personal data;

•             The right to object to the processing of your personal data.

Please note that some of these rights are not absolute and will only apply in certain circumstances. We will review each request we receive in respect of these rights. We do not have to agree with a request but if we refuse, we will still contact the data subject within one month to explain why. You also have the right to lodge a complaint with the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO). For further information, please refer to the ICO website, www.ico.org.uk. You may also seek a judicial remedy.

For further information about your rights as a data subject, plus information about the categories of data we process, data transfers, the legal basis for our processing, and the purposes of processing, please visit: carparkingpartnership.co.uk/privacy-policy

Kind Regards,

CPP Privacy Team

Re: LBCCC - Central Parking Partnership = University Hospital Coventry
« Reply #16 on: »
Respond with:

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Subject: PCN [reference] – Your latest email dated [insert date]

To: Enforcement Team, Car Parking Partnership (CPP)

Dear Sirs,

I acknowledge your latest email. The debt is denied.

Your latest email again fails to engage with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (PAPDC). It neither addresses the Consumer Rights Act 2015 points already raised (ss.50, 62, 68 and 69) nor provides the basic documents requested to narrow the issues. Simply asserting that you “maintain your position” is not PAPDC compliance.

For the second time: please pass this to a responsible adult within your organisation with a working knowledge of the PAPDC and the consequences of unreasonable conduct. If this correspondence is later placed before the court, I am content for it to evidence your repeated failure to respond meaningfully at the pre-action stage.

Why your stance is untenable at PAPDC stage

Protocol engagement: PAPDC requires early, proportionate exchange of information. You have ignored my core requests and threatened proceedings instead.
Substantive law (CRA 2015): Your signage and payment journey represented payment as a compliant option; your terminal accepted the VRM and took the fee for the exact period. You cannot then penalise the same conduct: this is contrary to s.62 (fairness), s.68 (transparency), s.69 (contra proferentem) and s.50 (pre-contract statements binding).
Estoppel: Having represented (via the terminal workflow) that payment secured the right to park, you are estopped from alleging breach.
• Costs threats: Your suggestion of “further costs” mischaracterises small-claims costs. Beyond the fixed issue fee and limited fixed legal costs, add-ons (including “debt recovery”) will be opposed as unrecoverable double recovery. See CPR 27.14; unreasonable conduct will be addressed on costs (incl. the approach reflected in the White Book).

Documents required (re-stated)

Provide within 30 days:
1. Full-size images of all signage in place on the material date and a site plan for the Disabled Blue Badge car park.
2. The terminal audit trail for the VRM for the date (accept/reject logic, timestamps, tariff applied, reconciliation confirming the payment taken).
3. ANPR entry/exit images and camera locations tied specifically to the Disabled Blue Badge car park.
4. The landowner contract conferring authority to offer terms to motorists and to litigate in your own name.

You say the matter has been “passed to our Privacy Team.” I take this as confirmation that my data-rights request is being processed. In line with good practice, you must place the matter on hold until that request is fulfilled and I have had a reasonable opportunity (no less than 30 days) to review the disclosure and respond.

Your threat to add further sums is misconceived. On the small-claims track only fixed issue fees and fixed, limited legal costs are generally recoverable. Any additional “debt recovery” or duplicative legal fees will be opposed as unrecoverable double-recovery.

If you issue without supplying the above documents and without awaiting the Privacy Team’s response, I will draw your conduct to the court’s attention as unreasonable non-compliance with the PAPDC and seek my costs.

Please confirm by return that you have put the matter on hold and that you will supply the documents requested within 30 days. Alternatively, cancel the charge and confirm closure. That remains the only outcome consistent with your signage, your terminal’s acceptance of payment, and the CRA.

Please confirm within 7 days that this has been escalated internally to someone competent to deal with PAPDC compliance, and within 30 days that you will provide the documents listed above.

Yours faithfully,

[Name of Keeper]
[Address]
[Email]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: LBCCC - Central Parking Partnership = University Hospital Coventry
« Reply #17 on: »
Respond to the data privacy team with the following:

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Subject: PCN [reference] – Misconceived Handling of PAPDC Requests

Dear Privacy Team,

Thank you for your email.

For clarity, my earlier correspondence was not a Freedom of Information or data-subject request. It was a Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (PAPDC) disclosure request, addressed to your Enforcement Team, requiring production of key documents prior to any claim being issued.

Your response demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of that distinction. The PAPDC disclosure duty exists independently of any data-protection framework, and your refusal to supply the requested evidence does not discharge CPP’s pre-litigation obligations.

Please ensure this matter is passed to a responsible adult within your organisation who understands both the PAPDC and the consequences of unreasonable conduct under CPR 27.14(2)(g). If proceedings are issued, this correspondence will be relied upon to evidence CPP’s repeated failures to comply with the protocol.

Yours faithfully,

[Name of Keeper]
[Address]
[Email]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: LBCCC - Central Parking Partnership = University Hospital Coventry
« Reply #18 on: »
Done. Thanks again b789

I've now had the first letter from DCBL regarding my PCN.
Just a reminder that this was parking was paid for and they have had the recipt and picture of signage to confirm yet it has still got this far despite replies as per advice from here. They also cancelled 2 PCNs from the same week in identical circumstances but continued with this one


Re: LBCCC - Central Parking Partnership = University Hospital Coventry
« Reply #20 on: »
Please, do not take offence but we really do not need to see useless debt recovery letters from powerless debt collectors. You can safely shred any debt recovery letter and use it as hamster bedding for all anyone cares.

All debt collectors are powerless to do anything except to try and intimidate the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree into paying out of ignorance and fear. They have zero standing in any alleged breach of contract by the driver. Just ignore them and use their free paper as kindling.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain