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Hello all,  I wonder if someone could please help.  (And I hope I posted to the correct forum, many apologies if I didn't)

On Friday 9th I received a letter from Pay My Fuel informing me that I did not pay for my fuel at my local Morrison's service station.
Although I don't clearly remember doing this (I use that station as well as another local one very regularly, for fuelling my wife's car as well as mine), and I have heard of such scams, I think it's genuine, as there are photos of my car and myself in my work uniform (I was in work that day), and the time and date is consistent with me fuelling up after work.   The amount of fuel they claim matches with the sort of amount I would usually put in (I'm a bit odd in that I always match the amount of pounds and pence, eg £27.27 or £42.42, etc), and there are also no records of any bank transactions (and I don't usually use cash to pay for fuel.   I normally use pay-at-pump so I am not usually even entering the kiosk).
Like I said, I have no clear recollection of doing this, but due to stresses and tiredness, I am probably guilty of the offence and feel pretty embarrassed to say the least, as this is something I would never do intentionally.

Anyway, I'm now being charged for the fuel I took, plus an extra penalty charge of £50.

I'm obviously more than happy to pay for the fuel I took, but money's not something I have loads of, and I can really do without wasting another £50 on a penalty charge.


Can anyone advise me please?

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Could you have attempted to use Pay at Pump which failed, and you'd not noticed and started fuelling anyway?

I've experienced that with Shell that the app either glitches or the payment authorisation fails, but if you don't look at your screen after confirming it could happen and you're not aware of it.

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possibly, though some of the pumps at that particular Morrison's do not have a pay-at-pump option.  I really can't remember to be honest

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if i returned to Morrison's and payed for the fuel in person, would i be able to get the penalty charge cancelled?

I'm asking because in the past, unknowingly to me, a debt (gas bill i think) got passed to a debt collector, but i immediately settled the debt with the gas company, which terminated the account with the debt collector

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what did morrisons say when contacted them?
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Mick, you are a very, very bad man

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i haven't contacted them yet, I'm going to do that today

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good
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Mick, you are a very, very bad man

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Can you show us the letter you have received?

The 'penalty' sounds a lot like a payment in return for them not shopping you to the police.

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Can you show us the letter you have received?

The 'penalty' sounds a lot like a payment in return for them not shopping you to the police.
I very much doubt they used the word "penalty". They'll probably claim it's an admin charge for chasing and handling the non-payment.

Morrisons are unlikely to relent if you went to the store and offered to pay: they're probably not set up to take such late payments, and they'll claim it's out of their hands and has been passed on to Pay My Fuel.

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Agreed, hence the quotation marks.

I've not heard of PayMyFuel but have seen cases on other forums involving Forecourt Eye who do essentially the same thing. IIRC their model is to pay the garage the alleged fuel money owed, then they add their admin fee on and seek the total from the motorist. If that's correct Morrisons are unlikely to be interested, as they'll have their money back already.

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I would be interested to know the purported legal justification for the demand.

On the face of it, it is a deterrent charge very much in the same vein as private parking penalties issued under a conveniently 'clarified' interpretation of contract law - the legal basis of which is that the defendant entered into a contract with the PPC to pay the penalty if he breached the conditions.

Absent an appropriate offer communicated to the driver, it is difficult to see how the clarified principles of contract law could apply.
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in the letter they do use the word "penalty".  and it also says in big red print at the top "notice of intended enforcement/prosecution".

I am currently having trouble uploading a photo of the letter  (When i click on the "attachments and other options" i don't seem to have an option for adding an attachment) but I'm still trying.   can anyone advise on this too please?

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ok, I've uploaded a photo of the letter to a 3rd party image hosting site.

you should be able to view it here..
https://i.postimg.cc/j5jwJtwH/IMG_20260110_WA0025(1)(1).jpg

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That is a legal hodge podge.

They refer to their letter as a Notice of Intended Enforcement/Prosecution, implying a criminal prosecution may be forthcoming.

They then refer to a "penalty fee" of £50. Elsewhere they talk of a "penalty charge" of £145 with a £95 discount for prompt payment.

Then they say that if you don't pay, they'll refer to a debt collector and may instigate County Court (aka civil) action.