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Premier park overstaying
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Car parked and 1 hour paid for.

Meeting at undertakers over ran

Pcn received


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Re: Premier park overstaying
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Sorry for your loss.

Is there a reason the driver didn't/couldn't make an additional payment to cover the additional time?

Re: Premier park overstaying
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Just lost father

Lost track of time

Re: Premier park overstaying
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Have you tried Plan A and asked the landowner to get it cancelled?

The Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not PoFA 2012 compliant with paragraphs 9(2)(a), 9(2)(e)(i) or 9(2)(h). As long as the driver is not identified, in law, they cannot hold the Keeper liable.

1. Paragraph 9(2)(a) – specify the period of parking
The notice only shows ANPR entry and exit times (15:32 to 17:02). These record vehicle movement past the cameras, not the actual period of parking as required by PoFA. There is no evidence or statement specifying the duration of parking once stationary, meaning it fails to “specify the period of parking to which the notice relates”.

2. Paragraph 9(2)(e)(i) – invite the Keeper to pay
The notice demands payment from the “driver” and instructs the keeper to provide the driver’s details but does not include the mandatory invitation wording required by PoFA:

“A notice which is to be relied on as a notice to keeper for the purposes of paragraph 6(1)(b) is given in accordance with this paragraph if the following requirements are met:

The notice MUST state that the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver and invite the keeper (i) to pay the unpaid parking charges OR or (ii) if the keeper was not the driver of the vehicle, to notify the creditor of the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver and to pass the notice on to the driver.”

There is no mention anywhere that the Keeper is invited to pay in lieu of naming the driver. Therefore PoFA 9(2)(e) is not satisfied.

3. PoFA 9(2)(h) – creditor not clearly identified
Paragraph 9(2)(h) requires the NtK to “identify the creditor” – i.e. the legal person to whom the parking charges are due (Sch 4 para 2(1)). This NtK never does so. It is headed with Premier Park Ltd’s name and refers vaguely to “We, the Creditor…”, but it does not state whether the creditor is the landowner, a managing agent, or Premier Park Ltd in its own right.

On private land there are often several entities in the chain and the keeper is entitled to know precisely who is alleging a debt is owed. A vague, self-referential “we, the creditor” on a contractor’s letterhead is not identification in the sense required by PoFA. The notice therefore fails the mandatory requirement at 9(2)(h), so keeper liability cannot arise.
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Re: Premier park overstaying
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Have you tried Plan A and asked the landowner to get it cancelled?
This is well worth a go in the circumstances. Premier Park will have no sympathy for your situation, but the landowner might. It might feel a bit cynical, but don't be afraid to tug on their heartstrings.

Re: Premier park overstaying
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It's a strange  scenario.  its a private hotel car park on the high street which allows parking on payment.  If your staying in the hotel you get to enter your registration and park for free.

I clearly wasn't going to hotel so can't really ask for there help

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so can't really ask for there help
Why not? It's their car park, so they've hired Premier Park to operate on their land.

It costs nothing to ask them... If they say 'no', you're in the same position you're already in. If they say 'yes', you save yourself much hassle.