Went to Barnet hospital and after several times in and out of the car park we decided to just wait inside the car park for a car to come out. On the way out, the machine told me a value but because I wasn't sure if it was counting the very first time I got in, I changed the entry time to when we finally ended up parking the car and paid.
Next week get a letter with a fine. I've appealed with the above justification and sent as supporting doc, the park payment from my bank statement and the message I sent my wife with the time I parked the car.
Got the letter back saying that my appeal was not succesful so would have to either pay with a discount "as a gesture of good will" or appeal to POPLA.
Was referred to this forum from Google search as a place to understand if it's worth an appeal.
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: I don't think I have access to the appeal anymore, I went to their site and there's no access to the appeal itself but here's the generated chatGPT notes I've pasted in (already realized that I might've identified myself as the driver)
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to appeal the above Parking Charge Notice issued on XX/XX/XX at Barnet Hospital – Patient & Visitors B.
On the day in question, I entered and exited the car park several times due to a lack of available spaces. On my final entry, I waited for a bay to become free and was not parked in a bay during that time. As I am new to the area and unfamiliar with this particular car park system, I was unsure how previous entries and exits would be recorded.
When proceeding to make payment, I was unsure whether the entry time suggested by the system reflected my earlier movements or my final entry. As I only began occupying a parking bay once a space became available, I corrected the entry time to the time I actually parked and paid for the full duration of my stay from that point.
Payment was made for the parking period, which can be verified through your payment system records. I have attached a screenshot from my bank app showing the parking charge, as well as a screenshot of a message sent at the time I secured a parking bay, which shows the corresponding time and supports the timeline provided above.
There was no intention to avoid payment, and I respectfully request that you review the ANPR and payment records and cancel this charge.
PCN
Response to appeal
Please post the PCN and the appeal wording and the response.
Obviously, redact all personal information.
Please post the PCN and the appeal wording and the response.
Obviously, redact all personal information.
Edited the initial post with what I have. Don't think I have access to the actual appeal but got what chatGPT generated from my description...
You only need to redact personal info.
You appeared to have blocked out pretty much everything for some reason?
Apologies to both, went a bit too crazy with the avoid to overshare as this is public notice in the FAQ. I can't seem to edit the main post so just adding it as a comment
Here's a less redacted version
https://ibb.co/WNJwFTdY
So you adjusted your entry time on the payment machine, told them that in your appeal and identified yourself as the driver? If so you have 2 options, pay the discounted rate (what's the discount rate they are offering?) or wait it out for the next few months and then eventually have to file a defence of a court claim. It'll probably get discontinued, only you can weigh up whether the hassle of waiting out the process or paying the discount is the best option for you.
So you adjusted your entry time on the payment machine, told them that in your appeal and identified yourself as the driver? If so you have 2 options, pay the discounted rate (what's the discount rate they are offering?) or wait it out for the next few months and then eventually have to file a defence of a court claim. It'll probably get discontinued, only you can weigh up whether the hassle of waiting out the process or paying the discount is the best option for you.
Yes, I wasn’t sure if it had counted the very first I initial time as I was in and out several times. The reference to the adjustment was to expect some leeway since I had no intention to not pay for the parking in itself.
The “discounted rate” is still the £60, they had just extended for 14 more days “as a gesture of good will”.
From what I can see from other cases it can go many ways so just wanted to understand if there’s a possibility - I might just cut my loses and move on.