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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Blackwall PCN
« on: November 11, 2025, 02:55:45 pm »
Hi,

I've been informed by the rental company that they received a PCN for my hire vehicle for crossing Blackwall tunnel, and as per their T&C's they have already charged the cost of the PCN and an additional admin fee.

I've an account set up with TFL initially for automatic payments for congestion charges, but it also includes tolls for Blackwall and Silvertown tunnels. So usually when I drive through them I don't worry about paying the charge. So I was in the same mindset with the rental van.

I'd just like to check if there has been much success in appealing the Blackwall PCNs, and do I have any basis to appeal? The PCN is obviously not in my name.

https://imgpile.com/p/3I4Bbd1

Thanks

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Thanks for the details, I've now received the N180 form. Just a quick question, should I leave the mediation section blank?

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Hey all,

I've received an email now from the solicitors stating that the client wishes to proceed with the claim, that the N180 has been filed with the court, but also that their client may be willing to settle the case.

Should I just ignore this correspondence, and wait for the court to issue the N180?

Thanks

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The representation was rejected with what seems to be a fairly standard auto reply.

https://imgur.com/a/rejected-representation-3dPzRAg

At least this time they provided the correct payment link.

Is there a good chance of getting this cancelled if appealing to the Adjudicators? I'm quite tempted to just pay to be honest especially considering the clear infraction.

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Good evening all,

I've been issued a PCN by Southwark for being in a bus lane. I'm fairly certain there hasn't been a camera instlalled here before, and haven't seen any warning of a new camera installation.

Regardless, the signage is quite clear, so don't have a leg to stand on in that regard. So I'd just like to check and would be most grateful if anyone could advise if the PCN can be challenged on any other grounds?

PCN:
https://imgur.com/a/LX7EPew

Payment page screenshot:
https://imgur.com/a/pEs3DHp

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Many thanks for the defence and draft order links! I've submitted the defence and will keep you all updated on progress.

Out of interest, why are the forms supplied by HMCTS not the right ones to submit in this instance, and/or not use the online service to respond to the claim (moneyclaim.gov.uk)?

Thanks all for the help so far, much appreciated!

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I found the initial LOC, hadn't read it carefully , thought it was just another debt collector letter. The LOC is dated: 21 March 2025.

I don't see any mention of N1SDT though. I may have discarded it if it were sent in a different letter, but I doubt it.

I've linked the claim form from HMCTS and the initial LOC (front and back).




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Hi all,

I have received a letter of claim sent by HM Courts & Tribunals Service including a response pack containing two forms - N9A: Admission Form, and N9B defense form.

Presumably I'll need to fill in the N9B form, is there anything in particular to be aware of when filling in the form? If not, I'll just use the same defence as submitted to the IAS.

Thanks

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Hi there,

I received two PCNs for driving through a restricted road twice (going in both directions). Whilst it was dark at the time, it was rather clear the road was restricted to vehicle traffic. So I don't think I've any basis to challenge validity of the PCN due to poor signage or on any other circumstantial basis.

As such, I was about to pay the PCNs but the payment link provided on the PCN doesn't work, it leads to a 404: Page not found error (www.southwark.gov.uk/onlinepayments).

So just curious if this provides a basis to challenge the validity of the PCN, or by any chance is there anything wrong with the PCN that could be used to make a successful challenge?

All 4 pages of the PCN: https://imgur.com/U3qA4cP

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I've appealed as per the suggestions, and as expected IAS have dismissed the appeal giving the following justification:

I am satisfied that the Appellant was parked in an area where the Operator has authority to issue Parking Charge Notices and to take the necessary steps to enforce them. The Appellant's contention that VCS has no legal standing is not accepted. The signage clearly states that VCS will be the creditor in the event of a PCN being issued.

What's the likely process now? Having read some other posts, it sounds like VCS will go through a debt recovery firm (which as per the suggestions on this form should be ignored) and then presumably it will be taken to court. Is my understanding correct?

On a separate note, I received a warning for bumping a post. It's unclear to me what should be done instead when looking for a reply to an unanswered question.

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I've appealed to the IAS using the template provided earlier, and I've attached VCS's correspondence. I've until 8th of Jan to add anything further before it's passed to the adjudicator. Is there anything else to add or anything worthwhile to highlight given their response?

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Sorry not trying to be difficult, but I'd just like to understand why they would receive a spanking if it got to court, so I could be a whole lot more comfortable letting it reach to that stage.

If the defence is incorrect legal entity, then wouldn't they just be able to point out that the sign states the contract is indeed with VCS, which is the correct legal entity?

 

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Hey all,

Any suggestions on what I should do at this stage? I've two days left to lodge an appeal to the IAS.

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It's pretty much as per the PCN.

A ticket was bought for two hours, which expired at 14:35. So the tickets would have been bought at 12:35. The cameras have the car entering the car park at 12:32 and exiting at 14:49, which exceeded the duration by 14 minutes, and is the reason for the PCN.


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Apologies, I had to quickly respond to the PCN as I was reaching the "discount" time limit in which to lodge the appeal.

Thanks for the suggested appeal, but on the sign it does say though that the contract is with VCS. Just so I'm clear are you essentially suggesting that the contract with VCS is void because the car park is managed by Excel?

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