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The signs do look obvious in that clip. however me and at least 11500 people have made the same mistake.

The context is that this road is for Winchester Rail Station drop off. At the entrance to the road there is a small no through road sign with except buses and taxis written underneath. There is a small drop off bay and then 50 metres on are the signs, the correct way out would be to do a U turn around the mini roundabout and go out the way you came.

I am not local to this area and google maps said to go the way I went. The signs are located around 7 - 8 feet high.

I found an FOI request asking how many unauthorised vehicles had been found to be using this road incorrectly, from April 2024 to February 2025, 11550 unauthorised vehicles were caught, so I am not alone in having myopia.


FOI Request.
https://1drv.ms/b/c/2baf20b77f4206f2/IQA80r6VYGQST6B9F8ki8UeLAR90tzYwczDbgGnlTVwZBdo?e=yJzOhw

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I have received the above PCN. I did not see the signs, despite being in a van the signs are located above the normal sight line. I usually have an eye for these signs as I drive 40k per annum and I'm used to these revenue generators!

Searching the forum I see that a 52J was successfully appealed in Croydon on the basis that the PCN did not accurately describe the prohibition.  "The Council’s evidence is that there is a signed prohibition on motor vehicles with an exception for buses, taxis and permit holders. This is not, however, clear on the face of the PCN which states simply that the vehicle failed to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle."

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/parsons-meadgardeners-road-croydon-52j-failing-to-comply-with-a-prohibition-on-c/msg115477/#msg115477

Could anyone advise if this is likely to be successful in Hampshire?

Thanks in advance.

Images of PCN: https://1drv.ms/b/c/2baf20b77f4206f2/IQCkBMpe27lwQZUqUh3Oc0S_ARtJ4qBk9XBLYYKsfqSqmJU?e=BaeaXZ


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Please find original PCN dated 20/11/25

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ovrFcff3YZsy5zZi8TY5hL74WRqboMwv/view?usp=drive_link

I replied with the standard aiport drop off text from this site.

Then recieved "what is the name of the driver letter" 18/12/25

Then recieved "Reminder Letter" 19/03/26

Then recieved Debt Recovery Plus letter 20/04/26





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I was sent a PCN for my vehicle not paying the Heathrow T5 drop off zone in mid November 2025. I copied the text of how to reply from this forum, as expected I got the letter asking for the drivers details, which I did not reply to. I then recieved a reminder letter in mid March which I did not reply to. I have now recieved a letter from Debt Recovery Plus saying unless I pay up they will commence legal action. I hadnt read of anyone else getting this letter on the forum, does anyone know how I should proceed.

Note: The reminder letter in mid March says "As we have not recieved a payment or an appeal this PCN is still outstanding" I did appeal using the standard wording from this site.

Thanks in advance.

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I recieved a Use of Drop Off without valid payment Heathrow T5 Drop Off, I followed the advice on here and sent them the standard text. I recieved a couple of chases from APCOA asking for drivers details, which I did not reply to. I have now recieved a letter from Debt Recovery Plus saying they will start legal procedings if I don't pay up. This seems to differ from previous cases on this forum. Am I still OK to hold my ground?

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