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Hi, i just received a reply from DCB legal to my response. Pasting here

We write in response to your correspondence received in our office dated 25 April 2026.
We acknowledge receipt of your correspondence and note the dispute raised.
 
In order to identify the Registered Keeper of the vehicle, our client submitted a request for details to the DVLA. Your details were provided and thereafter notices were sent to you by our client at your serviceable address. Those notices asked you to either make payment or, if you were not driving, nominate a driver by providing their name and full address. You did neither and as such you are now pursued on the basis that you were driving. On the balance of probabilities, if you were not the driver, you would have nominated.
 
When parking on private land, the contractual terms of the site are set out on the signs. You are entering a contract and agreeing to the terms by parking and staying on the site. Parking in breach of the terms as stipulated on the signage means that you are then breaking the terms of the contract.
 
The terms and conditions on the signs clearly provided tariff rates to pay for parking, if the correct payment was not made a parking charge would be issued. The parking charge was issued correctly as you failed to pay for the correct time your vehicle was on site.
 
The amount owed is a genuine pre-estimate of the losses incurred in managing the parking location to ensure compliance with the clearly displayed terms and conditions. However, in Parking Eye Ltd v Beavis, it was found, both at County Court and Court of Appeal level, that appealing a Parking Charge on the basis that the amount is not a genuine pre-estimate of loss is, in fact, not a successful legal defence.
 
As payment was not made, either within 14 or 28 days, the creditor was entitled to instruct debt recovery agents / Solicitors to pursue payment and is entitled to recover the costs of doing so. It would have been made clear in the terms and conditions set out in the signs that additional enforcement costs may be incurred in the event of non-payment.
 
If there are any documents that you have requested, but that are not attached, it is because we have deemed the request to be disproportionate and/or not relevant to the substantive issues in dispute. We respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.
 
You now have 30 days from the date of this email to make payment of £170.00. Failure to make payment may result in a Claim being issued against you without any further reference.
Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account: -
Account Name: DCB Legal Ltd Client Account
Sort Code: 20-24-09
Account Number: 60964441
You must quote the correct case reference (711201127995SMP) when making payment. If you do not, we may be unable to correctly allocate the payment. If further action is taken by us as a result of an incorrect reference being quoted, you will be liable for any further fees or costs incurred.
We would ask that you kindly furnish us with your most up to date telephone number, this can be emailed to us at info@dcblegal.co.uk.
Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/.


Please guide me how to respond.

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The second page of the LoC bottom left corner, it says issue date(s) 08/01/2023 instead of 31/01/2023 which is factually incorrect. I will attach the picture again for your reference.

Yes the v5c is accurate and was registered in my name at the time.

https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME1C7NV8

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Amazing. Thanks for pointing this out for me.

I’ve just drafted this response. What do you guys think?

Dear Sir/Madam,

I write in response to your Letter of Claim. I deny any liability for the alleged debt.

Your Letter of Claim contains a material factual inaccuracy. You state the “Issue Date” as 08/01/2023, whereas the actual Notice to Keeper is dated 31/01/2023. This is a significant misrepresentation of a key fact and calls into question your compliance with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.

Further, the Notice to Keeper was not delivered within the strict 14-day period required by Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. As such, your client has failed to establish keeper liability. I am the registered keeper only, and I am under no legal obligation to identify the driver. I will not be doing so.

In the absence of full compliance with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, your client has no lawful basis to pursue me as keeper. Any attempt to do so will be robustly defended.

The additional £70 sought is also disputed. This appears to be an attempt at double recovery and is unsupported by statute or case law. In ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis, the Supreme Court made clear that the parking charge itself already includes the operational costs of enforcement. The added sum is therefore unrecoverable and has been repeatedly disallowed by the courts.

Please provide the following documents and information:

* A copy of the original Parking Charge Notice
* Evidence of the date of posting and delivery of the Notice to Keeper
* All photographs relied upon
* A copy of the contract with the landowner authorising your client to operate and issue charges
* A full breakdown of the sum claimed and the legal basis for each element

Pending provision of the above, the matter is not suitable for litigation. You are required to place the case on hold for no less than 30 days pursuant to the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.

Should you proceed with a claim despite the above, I will seek to rely on your client’s failure to comply with statutory requirements, the inaccuracies within your Letter of Claim, and your attempt to recover an inflated and unrecoverable sum. I will also seek recovery of my costs pursuant to CPR 27.14(2)(g) for unreasonable conduct.

Any further processing of my personal data without lawful basis will be challenged.

Yours faithfully,

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Hi, could you kindly clarify by what you mean that it is too late to transfer liability? Does that mean if they had issued the PCN within a specified time I would’ve been liable as a keeper? 

Also @DWMB2 were you able to access the pics, if not i can try to use other means to attach.
 

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Hi guys,


Would appreciate any help in constructing my first email to dcb legal. I have found some templates from previous similar cases on this forum, shall I just use the exact ones, or should i make any changes? Kindly looking for directions


Many thanks

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Dear community,

I just received a LoC from DCB legal after 3 years. I dont recall receiving any PCN for the same and we are usually thorough with our mails. So this came as a surprise. Any help on how to go about this would be appreciated. I am attaching the image URLs which includes 1. DCB legal letter of claim (front page and back page)
2. The original PCN
3. Picture of car entry and exit time.

In the contravention details it only mentions “insufficient paid time” it does not mention whether the driver has paid any amount at all for any period of time.

https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME1C7NV6 https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME1C7NV8

https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME1C7O87  https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME1C7NZO

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Dear community
I just received my first ever DCB Legal LoC for a PCN 3 years ago. So here I am. I dont recall receiving this PCN by post so this came as a surprise.

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