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Thanks for your considered reply.

Regarding the VRM there’s been no check against any white list as far as I know, simply that the Costa manager accepted my word that I’d entered the VRM and she then requested the PO to cancel the PCN. I don’t know whether it was system failure or my mistyping the reg which invoked the PCN.

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I'm not aware of any such provision in the CoP off the top of my head.

Thinking aloud, one could potentially run the argument that in circumstances where the landowner is of the view that the charge should not be upheld, that the charge no longer passes the test of being commercially justifiable, as established in ParkingEye vs Beavis.

You’re right, having checked I can find no requirement in CoP for cancellation.

I agree with your second paragraph, which I interpret as:
A parking operator’s authority to issue and enforce charges derives solely from the landowner. When the landowner instructs cancellation of a specific PCN, the operator’s authority to pursue that charge is withdrawn. Any continued enforcement is therefore beyond their authority, contrary to CoP Section 7, and cannot give rise to keeper liability under POFA.

Does that sound sensible, or am I off the mark?

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Point #1 isn't wrong, per se, the OP received the notice when he received it. Proving the same is another matter.

It would seem the landowner's contract with ParkingEye is such that there is a fee for cancellation - I'd be pressing the landowner to cover this fee, if it is their system that has failed.

I believe though will need to confirm that CoP requires that a request to cancel an NTK by the landowner must be complied with by the parking company.  Also, I don’t think there’s  mention of a supplementary invoice being sent to the registered keeper.
In any case, wouldn’t this supplementary invoice/additional charge need to be included on the NTK?

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Point 1 is not right, NTKs are presumed delivered 2 working days after posting. That would put presumed delivery on 23/02/2026, within the allowed timeframe. Delays in postal processing are outside the control of Parking Eye.

Can you confirm if this was appealed at the appeals stage and if the driver was revealed?

I’m due to appeal to Parking Eye today.  They agreed to extend their appeal deadline beyond 14 days after I explained to them that I, as registered keeper received the NTK 23 days after the event.  Their action to extend suggests they have already accepted late receipt because if they were confident that I’d received it before then they would have turned down my request for extension.
The driver has not been revealed.

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Above I described that I’d received a Parking Charge Notice from Parking Eye for my vehicle overstaying the time limit at a Costa Coffee car park. 

Details are that:
1: I, as registered keeper of the car received the PCN  24 days after the event, and not within the required 14 days.
2: whilst at the café, the driver entered their VRN into the counter terminal and should have been allowed an extra 90 minutes of parking such that the PCN shouldn’t have been issued.
3: the Area Manager confirmed that the driver had entered their car details into the VRN terminal and cancelled the PCN via her access to the Parking Eye management terminal. 

Then, on 13th April I received a letter from Parking Eye as follows:
“With reference to the parking charge incurred on 15 February 2026 at 14.08, at Costa Coffee Green Meadow, Pontyclun car park.
We have recently received a request to cancel this parking charge via our client.
Following a review of the case, we are unable to cancel the parking charge at this stage however, on a without prejudice basis, Parkingeye are willing to offer a further reduced parking charge amount of £20.00, which will contribute to covering some of the costs incurred.
If, following a period of 14 days this Parking Charge remains unpaid, the Parking Charge will revert to the full amount and follow our unpaid escalation process.”

I plan to appeal to Parking Eye on the following grounds:

1. POFA breach — NTK delivered after 14 days
2. Authorised parking — VRN entered, confirmed by Costa
3. Principal cancellation — Costa Area Manager cancelled via management portal

Once more factual detail is added does this seem like a reasonable appeal?

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Terms and conditions signage is in Welsh and English. Here’s an English one



Small text at bottom of sign:

Parkingeye Ltd is appointed by the landowner as its agent authorised to manage this private car park for and on its behalf. By parking in this private car park you will be contracting with the landowner and agreeing to park in accordance with the terms and conditions that apply, which are set out within this notice and other signage displayed
In the car park (the "Parking Contract"). By parking, walting or otherwise remaining within
issue, Parkingeye Ltd may incur additional costs in respect of further recovery action taken and may mean additional charges apply to recover these costs from you. The Parking Contract shall form the entire agreement between the parties and any variation of Its terms shall not be valid unless confirmed in writing by Parkingeye Ltd as agent for the landowner. Please note that Parkingeye Ltd is not responsible, and shal not in any circumstances be liable, for the car park surface, damage or loss to or from motor vehicles, or general site safety. In addition to the terms of the Parking Contract please see the privacy Information below Privacy Information - when you use this car park, Parkingeye Ltd collects and processes certain data in order to ensure that you comply with the terms and conditions of parking and to enforce these where necessary. We also use data collected for car park management. This will include, for example, reporting in respect of our services on vehicle turnover and repeat visits to this car park in order to improve the user experience. The data we collect comprises images of vehicles using the car park and/or their Vehicle Registration Mark. This is collected via Automatic Number Plate Recognition cameras and/or attendants on-site, as well as via the payment machines and/or terminals. We may share data from time to time as required to support the purposes stated above. When collecting data specified in this notice, Parkingeye Ltd is the Data Controller. For more Information, including details regarding your rights as a data subject, please visit our website at www.parkingeye.co.uk/privacy-pollcy. Alternatively, you can email us at privacy@parkingeye.co.uk

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On 11 March I, as keeper, received a PCN for a parking offence dated 15 February (attached above).

On 14 March The driver drove the 50 mile round trip to Costa Coffee and spoke with the manager who kindly offered to cancel the PCN via the parking company though warned there might be a £20 “admin charge”.
Whilst there the driver saw the on-counter tablet device and remembered that during his original visit his registration number had been entered into this as required to extend his stay by 90 minutes, and therefore that his stay was within the allowed time (90 mins +90 mins for entering the registration number).  The driver informed this to the manager and asked that she noted this to the parking company.

On 16 March I received a parking charge reminder dated 28 February. I ignored this because the Manager had informed the driver that the PCN would be cancelled.

On 2nd April I received a letter from the parking company dated 25 March stating that Schedule 4 of PFA has been satisfied and as 29 days have passed from the date the PCN was given parkingeye has the right to recover the parking charge  from me.

On 3 April the driver again visited Costa Coffee but a different manager was on duty and wasn’t able to help.  The driver entered registration details on the terminal and noted that on their first attempt the recorded details were wrong but accepted by the machine.

According to parking eye I am now liable for the PCN charge.
My defence appears to be that the driver entered their registration details in the tablet but that this hasn’t been considered by parking eye: perhaps the driver entered incorrect details, or perhaps the tablet screen was out of calibration and recorded the wrong details.  Unfortunately a receipt is not provided by the tablet so it is difficult to verify who or what is at fault.  On the original visit the driver was accompanied by two friends who acknowledge that the registration details were input into the tablet.

The PCN reminder and Schedule 4 letter are included below.  I have the number of the Costa area manager and Will phone her tomorrow and ask that this be cancelled, however as this was promised but didn’t happen previously I’d be grateful for suggestions as to my next steps.









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Yes, best bet is to go back to Costa and speak to the manager.

Do you have ant receipts or bank details?

Thanks for your reply.
Yes, bank statement and transaction shows in Costa ‘loyalty’ app (ironically)

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Hello

On 15th Feb the driver drove into the Costa Coffee, Pontyclun car park, found a parking space and entered the coffee shop with two friends.  No parking signs were noticed by this group, and they weren’t advised of any parking restriction by staff of the coffee shop.  The group left the coffee shop more than two hours later and drove away.

This morning I, as registered keeper received through the post a PCN sent for over-staying at the Costa Coffee car park in Pontyclun.  The PCN is attached and the images show that a car bearing my car’s registration number entered the car park at 11:44:54 and left at 14:06:27, a period of 2h23m.  The PCN states that the maximum stay is 1h30m after which a parking charge will be applied.

On the PCN it states that the stay was on the 15th February, and that the PCN was issued on the 19th Feb.  It was received by me today 11 March, almost 3 weeks after it was issued, and outside the 14 day discounted period.

The driver plans to drive to Costa Coffee and ask that the PCN be cancelled.  They will also photograph the car park area and any signage.

I’d appreciate your help as to the next steps.

Thank you.





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