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Yes, the round sign - if it has not been replaced by the rectangular one in the evidence - is mandatory. Different contravention, but now it is getting clearer. Thank you.

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If the round sign is still there - I don't have a leg to stand on, but shouldn't this be a different contravention? "A one-way restriction" implies driving against the traffic.

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The blue rectangular sign with white arrow in the evidence is informational and only confirms that the car was moving in the allowed direction on Maple Street. It does not place a restriction by itself in my understanding of the Highway Code.

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Good afternoon,

Here are the imgpile links:
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https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/7LMRTxb_md.jpg  https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/L7EhdNs_xs.mp4 
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I was driving my partner's car from the hospital at night.
The PCN states "Failing to comply with a one-way restriction" and from the evidence I could not work out what I had done wrong.
To start with - there is no mentioning of the exact location. I assumed the junction of Maple Street and Tottenham Court Road as the probable location due to the traffic lights in the pictures.
The car was going to the right direction (eastbound) on the one-way Maple street and there is no prohibition to turn left visible in the evidence.
Google Street View does show an Ahead Only sign outside of the images area, but it is dated 2024.

I'm prepared to accept being wrong, but from the evidence I don't see where and how this specific contravention took place.

Any advice appreciated.

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Barnet PALS was useless.
Royal Free parking services are more sensible: rf-tr.parkingrfl@nhs.net.

It is one of the ANPR cameras operated car park, where parking time is measured between entrance and exit shots without any evidence of actual parking.

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An update: the first to respond was Copthall Manager (not the GLL CEO). Both PCNs have been cancelled.
More may be on their way for this 2-months period, but it is the end of the beginning.
It cheers me up when I come across a sane person in a service-oriented organisation.

Many thanks to b789 for taking time to advise.

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Thank you!

I've briefly stopped at the entrance to the Leisure Centre car park today, causing the fury of other drivers, to take pictures (added to Imgur).

When turning from Champions Way towards the car park, there is a single sign on the right. From the car I can only read "Private Land. Pay and Park". Anything below that is in a small font that is not readable from the car in the left lane. There are no signs at the entrance to the marked parking spaces, but there are signs spread around the car park.

Not sure how it can help my future defence, but I feel confident that no ANPR warnings were missed deliberately as they were not visible from a moving car.

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Apologies for being pesky but I'd like to avoid pitfalls, especially when multiple PCNs are expected.

Copthall Leisure Centre is managed by better.org.uk which is a part of GLL.
One way to contact them is to submit complaint via form on better.org.uk, another is to email GLL CEO Peter Bundey on    peter.bundey@gll.org.

I consider the following text:

"I started getting PCNs from Gemini Parking Solutions as a registered keeper of the car BV15 SNK. The car was used to drop off a student for school swimming lessons at Copthall Leisure Centre on Monday mornings during September-October. The charges are unfair and I urge you, as a CEO of the Leisure Centre owner, to cancel them."

Which one is a preferred option?

Many thanks.

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Thank you.

Is it worth adding to the appeal that (if my understanding is correct) according to paragraph 9 of PoFA 2012 "The relevant period for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4) is the period of 14 days beginning with the day after that on which the specified period of parking ended", meaning PCN was issued 3 days after 14 days period?
Or it will change nothing and my appeals to Gemini and IAS (I've heard about their notoriety before) are nominal and the case will proceed to the court anyway?

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Thank you, b789.

As anticipated, PCNs started to arrive for other visits.
It was issued on 25 October for the alleged contravention on 7 October, is this within the time limits?
I've added images to Imgur: https://imgur.com/a/MfjmWms.

Before I go back and take pictures - I do not wish to speculate about the signage.

At this stage I wonder about the best way to deal with this (and coming) PCNs.
I also wonder how to complain to Copthall Leisure Centre without revealing the identity of drivers as these visits were to drop off our son for school swimming lessons before 8:20am.

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Really useful - thank you.

I don't have any immediate plans to be way but 6 years is a long period...

Is there any benefit in requesting the original PCN or complaining to the Copthall Leisure Centre?

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Thank you for the response.
My DVLA address is up-to-date as I've not moved in the last 15 years.

I will try to get there and take pictures, though I am now unsure where and for how long I can leave the car, but I got a dumb question: if Gemini have up to 6 years to claim and the LoC (or other time restricted correspondence) arrives when I am away - what will be my course of action if I miss it?

I expect more Parking Charge Notices to arrive as our son had several school swimming lessons at Copthall.

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Good afternoon,

Imgur link https://imgur.com/a/MfjmWms.

I would be grateful for the advice.

I received a demand to pay from Debt Recovery Plus for failure to pay for the parking at Copthall Leisure Centre (Barnet, London) on 16 September. Not sure when it was posted, but the deadline is 7 November.

I have never received a Parking Charge Notice , therefore I can only assume it relates to us dropping our son off for school swimming lessons. Without the Parking Charge Notice I am not aware of any details and, obviously, had no chance to respond.

We sometimes had to wait 10-15 mins for the school bus to arrive, but the driver was always in and the engine was on.

I expect more Parking Charge Notices to arrive for each visit, but this one is more urgent to deal with.

I consider complaining to the Copthall management and asking to cancel the charges but this will reveal - at least, indirectly - the identities of the drivers.

Thanks in advance.

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Private parking tickets / Re: ParkingEye-Barnet Hospital-PCN
« on: October 11, 2024, 09:48:08 am »
I thought this may be of interest to share...

This morning I left my car on an unrestricted street and attempted to find the parking location at Barnet hospital. I walked to the area that looked familiar and took some pictures (added to imgur).

At the entrance the only Staff Parking sign is when turning left. There is no sign when you turn right, however the row on the right side has a sign and the row on the left has none. I believe this is where I was parked (see the spaces between the dark coloured vehicles). This area is drive-through and connects to the next set of parking spaces.

I was pretty sure ParkingEye would reject the "no signage" argument or even add the sign if they see the pictures, but...surprise, surprise...

... when I got home, I found an email response from Royal Free Parking Team saying that they cancelled the charge as a goodwill and ParkingEye will confirm this to me in the next few days.
I only wrote to them yesterday and I can't believe they actually read mails and employ sensible staff!

Happy end (if ParkingEye can't overturn this decision).

Thanks everyone.

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Private parking tickets / Re: ParkingEye-Barnet Hospital-PCN
« on: October 10, 2024, 05:35:48 pm »
I agree with b789 - PCN invites the driver to pay the charge without mentioning the keeper at all.

As for the car park layout - there are certainly multiple cameras as my entry time known to the parking machine was earlier than the one on the PCN. Unfortunately, Streetview does not show beyond car park entrance, so I will need to get there and retrace my journey.

Thanks everyone, very much appreciated.

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