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Just out of interest, if i appeal, can the tribunal get me a reduced fee if they deem it that the pcn is valid but i didnt actually get the 14 days reduced rate? Can i also include that in my appeal? (something along the lines of i should not be paying this, also they didnt even offer me the reduced rate for the first 14 days, i never got the original pcn)

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Please may we see a copy of your reps.

Am I right in thinking your car was parked where the dark blue van is parked in this 2021 GSV?

This was my original appeal to rochdale councu to them:


PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE: RE12445731
VEHICLE REGISTRATION: AF14SSS

FORMAL REPRESENTATIONS AGAINST PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE

Dear Sir/Madam,
I write to make formal representations against the above Penalty Charge Notice dated 13th November 2025, relating to an alleged contravention on 10th October 2025.

I am the registered keeper of the vehicle but I was not the driver at the time of the alleged contravention. The vehicle was towed to ApexMotorMechanics Unit 2, School Lane, Rochdale (google maps) for repairs on the date in question. I had no control over the vehicle's parking at the time of the alleged contravention as it was in the possession of the garage and their employees.

The Notice to Owner states the contravention was "parking with one or more wheels of the vehicle more than 50cm from the curb." As I was not present and have no first-hand knowledge of the circumstances, I cannot verify whether this alleged contravention actually occurred.

I have spoken to the garage who have outright denied all knowledge of this contravention. However, without having received the original PCN or being able to view any photographic evidence of the alleged contravention, I am unable to properly assess the validity of this charge.

I respectfully request that the council provide evidence of the contravention, specifically photographs showing the vehicle's position relative to the kerb, as is standard practice with most local authorities. In the absence of such evidence and given that I had no control over the vehicle at the time, I believe this PCN should be cancelled.

Should you reject these representations, I intend to appeal to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal where I will seek full disclosure of the evidence upon which this charge is based.

I have attached proof that the vehicle was indeed with the mechanics in the form of whatsapp messages with the mechanic and also receipts for the repair.

Proof Below
Proof 1

Please note the timestamp at the top of chat of 10th September 2025. The mechanic messaged me after the time for the contravention which clearly proves I was not in possession of the car when the contravention occurred.

This second image is a receipt for the purchase of the parts used to repair the car which further proves the car was in for repairs.

Proof 2

I look forward to your response.
Yours faithfully,
Muhammed Arslaan Qadus

Quote from: azy2k9 on December 20, 2025, 10:49:41 pm

Hey all, so I followed the advice here but unfortunetly Rochdale council are not interested in the slightest... they have acknowledged that I was not the driver but are still demanding I pay. They have also refused me the right to the discounted rate as they say I had the chance to pay but didn't despite me never even getting a PCN which is weird. Posting the letter here for advice on next steps.

 Find the rejection letter

With no re-offer of the discount, it is now a total NO-BRAINER to take them to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, because there are no additional costs, just the PCN penalty if you lose and you could win and pay nothing. Better than just paying these venal idiots, surely ?

Sounds like this is the way to go to be honest

Hi, apologies i'm not well versed with PCNs etc.

Vehicle Reg: AF14SSS
PCN Number: RE12445731

According to this link, appeals can only be made in writing and they don't show you any evidence as such. Its frustrating because I never received the original yellow packet PCN on the windscreen I can't really see what actually happened.

This is my car, I don't know who the driver was at the time that this PCN happened because it was being worked on by the garage the night before, I assume someone there parked it in a stupid place the day the PCN was issues but I have no way to know the exact driver, I've spoken to the garage and they just keep telling me to appeal and say the car was towed to the garage and it will be cancelled but thats it.

So I guess that's my last option? Appeal to the council with as much information as possible showing that the car was being worked on during the time that PCN was issued and pray for the best? Not sure it helps but this is the garage on street view, it gives you an idea for how cars are parked directly outside the garage on the main road once they have been worked on...

Sounds like a plan, see you next year