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Hi, please read this and post both front and back of the Notice to Keeper (NTK) - Please redact your personal info, the PCN number and number plate. https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/Also confirm if you have had any communications prior, and if you have evidence of the breakdown (eg: document from AA or other recovery service).For now, if you haven't, do not identify the driver.

@HashimYou may want to redact the PCN number as anyone can currently appeal on your behalf.

Forum threads don't work like social media. They are linear.You don't reply to people, you reply to the thread. It then gets added to the end.The "Reply" button will always be at both the top and the bottom of each page.

You won't be paying a thing as this is within the Stansted Airport Byelaws, so they can't hold the keeper liable as long as you don't give away who the driver is.Could you post the back of the PCN as well.Here's similar posts on this location:https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/stansted-met-southgate-park-starbucks/30/https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/stansted-airport-met-southgate-park-starbucks/

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The site is too new to check against Land Registry/Ordnance Survey, all I'm getting is the railway-owned buildings on the "Railway Approach" street on that postcode and a few retail units.Quick GMaps check shows that the parking that butts up against the Tesco Express is a residents-only carpark, so the land-owner will probably just fob you off if you can find who it is.Gmaps link - Signs are on the right-hand side of the photo.If those signs are still current, they are of a forbidding nature, so that might help your case.This is just to add info, please follow the advice of the experts.Edit: Actually found the address of the Tesco under a different postcode: EN8 9AW, UPRN is 148016581, info is available on Land Registry.

So similar situation to the ICO then. I hope it improves the situation for people getting ripped off like this in the future, I really do.For now, gonna park this for 6-8 weeks whilst POPLA smashes their brain cells together.in the meantime, thanks for the help so far!

Sent off the rebuttal, now we wait.Out of curiosity, any luck yet with those DMCC letters?

Thank you. Do you want me to wait until Thursday/Friday to stretch for time or is it not worth it at this point?

Morning,APCOA has uploaded an evidence pack to POPLA on 28/11, which gives me 7 days to provide comments (Friday 5/12?).I need to spend some time redacting since they love sprinkling my name multiple times in each comment. I will upload somewhere once I went over it.Edit: Redacted evidence pack, includes site plan, signage and contract they have with Southeastern: https://drive.proton.me/urls/F6W8Q507BW#bKGMwycAWtjXEdit 2: Reading the evidence pack, I think their response fails with this paragraph:QuoteAs can be seen from the Penalty Notice sent to Mr on 27/10/2025, the Penalty Notice statesthat ‘DVLA Records indicate that you were the registered keeper on the date of the offence. You arelegally liable for this offence as the owner even if you were not the driver at the time.’ Therefore, Mris liable for the Penalty Notice as the registered keeper of the vehicle even if he was not thedriver at the time. The Penalty Notice is clearly addressed to Mr and within his appeal toPOPLA, Mr has confirmed that he is the registered keeper of the vehicleThey are trying to conflate "Registered Keeper" and "Owner" as the same, even though I've seen in past posts the explicit part of the V5C where it states "This document is not proof of ownership"

Sorry, skipped over it straight to the appeal text. That's on me.

Thank you, b789, POPLA appeal submitted verbatim. Under the first question about what kind of appeal, I selected "Other".I received verification and a password to follow up on the appeal.I'll report back when I receive anything.Thanks!

As expected, they rejected the appeal (Redacted version below) and gave a POPLA code, so time to draft an appeal to them.If I understand it, I need to appeal to POPLA under protest, as they are not an authorised appeals body by the railway TOC?I am having trouble finding a post on here that has a POPLA appeal regarding "Penalty notices" related to TOC land. The closest I can find is this, but it seems to me that it's quite a lot of text for an appeal to an organisation that's essentially not authorised to act: https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/amberley-railway-station-(apcoa)-failure-to-park-in-marked-bay-three-days-in-a-r/msg39422/#msg39422I would be happy with some helpful pointers so I can draft an appeal, thank you!

Thank you.Appealed with the unchanged template. Always fun to see references to Arkell v Pressdram.Will update when I get something back.

If the above still holds true, the keeper will appeal using the following text (as found in another thread from 2024 on here)QuoteI am the registered keeper of the vehicle referenced above. APCOA cannot hold a registered keeper liable for any alleged contravention on land that is under statutory control, such as Ashford International Station. As a matter of fact and law, APCOA will be fully aware that the Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012 cannot be used to pursue keeper liability, as Ashford International Station is not 'relevant land' under that Act.If the landholder of Ashford International Station wished to hold owners or keepers liable under Railway Byelaws, that would be within their right as the landowner. However, not only has this not been pleaded, but it is also legally impossible for APCOA to do so, as APCOA is not the landowner. Your fake 'Penalty Notice' is not a real statutory penalty. It is purely an attempt by APCOA to generate profit, as opposed to a lawful penalty under Railway Byelaws, which would go to the public purse.APCOA’s fake Penalty Notice is nothing more than an "offered contract" relying on contract law allegations of breach and is only applicable to the driver. The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under any misguided interpretation of agency law. Your fake Penalty Notice can only attempt to hold the driver liable, and as such, APCOA cannot lawfully pursue me as the registered keeper.Given these facts, APCOA has no hope of success at POPLA or in any legal forum. I urge you to cancel this Penalty Notice now and avoid wasting both our time on an appeal that will inevitably fail.