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Thank you for this, much appreciated.

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That response from UKCPM is their standard rejection template — it clearly has not engaged with a single substantive point of your appeal. Annex F refers to the Appeals Charter within the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP) Version 1.1, which lists specific scenarios where an operator should cancel a charge as a matter of goodwill, such as minor keying errors, paid sessions with small mistakes, valid Blue Badges, or brief stops covered by grace or consideration periods.

UKCPM saying your case does not fall under Annex F does not relieve them of their obligations under PoFA or the law. Their reliance on Annex F indicates they are too intellectually malnourished to understand your appeal, which was not a request for discretionary cancellation but a challenge based on keeper liability and the statutory status of the land.

Just appeal to the IAS as the Keeper with the following single point appeal. If the IAS adjudicator is a real solicitor, they will be able to read it and understand it:

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The Appellant is and was at all material times the registered keeper of the vehicle. The Appellant has not identified the driver and declines to do so. The sole ground of this appeal is that, as a matter of law, no liability can arise against the keeper because the site is not “relevant land” for the purposes of Schedule 4 to the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (“PoFA 2012”), such that the Respondent cannot invoke the statutory keeper liability provisions.

Crystal Palace Park is owned by the Greater London Authority and is managed and controlled pursuant to statutory powers conferred by the London Parks and Open Spaces Act 1967, as confirmed by the Ministry of Housing and Local Government Provisional Order Confirmation (Greater London Parks and Open Spaces) Act 1967, and is further regulated by specific Crystal Palace Park Byelaws made under, inter alia, the Public Health Acts Amendment Act 1907 and the Local Government Act 1972. In consequence, parking and use of vehicles within the park is subject to a statutory regime and is not merely a matter of private contract on ordinary private land.

Paragraph 3(1)(c) of Schedule 4 PoFA 2012 provides in clear and mandatory terms that “relevant land” does not include land “on which parking is subject to statutory control.” The statutory framework governing Crystal Palace Park and the byelaws made thereunder constitute precisely such statutory control. It follows that this location is excluded from the definition of “relevant land” for the purposes of PoFA 2012. That exclusion is absolute and is not capable of being waived or circumvented by any wording on signage or in a notice to keeper, nor by any purported contract between the Respondent and its client.

The legal consequence of the land not being “relevant land” is that the entire statutory mechanism in Schedule 4 PoFA 2012 for transferring liability from the unknown driver to the registered keeper is simply inapplicable. Even if, quod non, the notice to keeper were otherwise fully compliant with each and every prescriptive requirement of Schedule 4, no keeper liability can arise where the land fails to meet the threshold definition in paragraph 3. In such circumstances the Respondent is confined, as a matter of law, to pursuing only the driver in person under ordinary principles of contract or tort. The Respondent has no entitlement to fix liability upon the keeper by reliance on PoFA 2012.

In those circumstances, the Respondent can only ever have a claim, if at all, against the driver. There is no freestanding common-law or contractual route by which a private parking company can impose liability on a keeper in the teeth of Parliament’s decision to restrict keeper liability to relevant land only.

Further, and independently of the “relevant land” bar, the Appellant relies upon the reasoning in the persuasive County Court appeal decision of Vehicle Control Services Ltd v Ian Mark Edward (2023). In that case, the appeal court held in terms that the mere fact a defendant is the registered keeper has no evidential effect in creating any inference, rebuttable or otherwise, that the keeper was driving on the material occasion. There is, therefore, no evidential presumption for a keeper to “rebut”, and no adverse inference may properly be drawn from a keeper’s refusal to engage with speculative questions about who was driving. The lower court in that case was found to have erred precisely because it treated keeper status as giving rise to an inference of driving and then drew an adverse inference from the defendant’s silence. The appeal court rejected that approach.

The appellate judge in Edward further explained that this analysis is consistent with the underlying purpose of PoFA 2012. Parliament introduced Schedule 4 because, prior to its enactment, liability could not be fixed upon a keeper merely by identifying them through DVLA data and waiting to see whether they put forward a positive defence. If such an evidential shortcut had existed, PoFA 2012 would have been unnecessary; parking companies could simply have sued keepers and relied on silence or a lack of detailed explanation to succeed. The court in Edward recognised that to proceed in that way would be to impose a de facto duty on a registered keeper to identify the driver or to put forward a positive case in order to avoid personal liability, and held that no such duty existed before PoFA and none can be implied where PoFA does not apply.

The reasoning in Edward also accords with a broader and important principle: absent an express statutory obligation, an individual enjoys a general freedom not to provide information against themselves or others. In the context of private parking enforcement on non-relevant land, there is no statutory duty upon a keeper to name the driver. The Appellant is fully entitled to decline to do so. The Respondent cannot invite the IAS to circumvent that freedom by asserting that, “on the balance of probability”, the keeper was probably the driver. As explained in Edward, the supposed probability analysis is misconceived: from the bare fact of keeper status alone, one simply cannot say, even on balance of probabilities, that the keeper must have been the driver. There are countless commonplace scenarios where the registered keeper is not the only, nor even the usual, driver of the vehicle, including corporate ownership, fleet vehicles, employer-provided vehicles, and households where one person is the registered keeper but multiple family members routinely drive both or all vehicles.

It follows from Edward that there is no lawful evidential shortcut, no presumption, and no legitimate inference that the keeper was “likely” driving which could be deployed to fill the gap left by the inapplicability of PoFA 2012. On non-relevant land, a parking operator who wishes to sue must prove driver liability in the ordinary way. They cannot simply point to DVLA keeper data, invite the IAS to treat that as prima facie evidence of driving, and then complain that the keeper has not “rebutted” the suggestion. That is precisely the approach rejected on appeal in Edward.

In this case, the Appellant has not identified the driver and is under no duty to do so. The land is not relevant land, so PoFA 2012 cannot be relied upon to impose keeper liability. There is no evidential presumption of driver identity arising from keeper status and no proper basis to invite the IAS, or indeed any tribunal, to apply a “balance of probabilities” shortcut in the face of the Edward reasoning. Accordingly, the Respondent has no lawful basis to pursue the Appellant as keeper. The only legally correct outcome is that this appeal be allowed on that single dispositive ground.

Received this response today.
Obviously not addressesd the argument raised.
What now?
Operator's Prima Facie Case
The operator made their Prima Facie Case on 22/12/2025 09:40:07.

The Operator Reported That...
The appellant was the keeper.
The operator is seeking keeper liability in accordance with PoFA..
ANPR/CCTV was used.
The Notice to Keeper was sent on 28/10/2025.
A response was received from the Notice to Keeper.
The ticket was issued on 24/10/2025.
The Notice to Keeper (ANPR) was sent in accordance with PoFA.
The charge is based in Contract.

The Operator Made The Following Comments...
The appellant has been captured by ANPR entering and exiting the car park. The vehicle remained within the car park for a total duration of 57 minutes. This can be seen in the attached document '70125102'.

The appellant has parked within the car park and did not make payment for the full duration of their stay.

Signage clearly states, "YOU MUST PAY THE APPLICABLE TARIFF TO COVER THE FULL DURATION OF YOUR STAY, ENTERING THE FULL AND CORRECT VEHICLE REGISTRATION NUMBER AT THE PAYMENT TERMINAL OR VIA THE CASHLESS PAYMENT FACILITIES".

We have searched our records and cannot locate any evidence of a payment made under vehicle registration EO14AHV on the date of contravention, however other vehicles have registered on the E-permit system. Evidence of this can be seen in the attached document '70125102'.

It is the driver's responsibility to ensure they enter their full, correct vehicle registration when making payment for parking as this is the only way UK CPM can determine which vehicles are authorised to park.

At the time of the contravention the appellant was parked on private land. UK CPM does not own the land upon which the vehicle was parked; however, we do hold a legal contract that authorises our enforcement officers to monitor and maintain the parking areas on behalf of the landowner. This therefore entitles UK CPM to issue and uphold all parking charge notices given to those who have breached the parking restrictions.

Within the PCN issued to the Registered Keeper, it clearly states: ‘If you were not the driver of the vehicle, you should notify us in writing (see reverse for details) of the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver. You should also pass this notice to the driver.'

Driver is not named, however, Notice to Keeper now states: “if, after the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which this notice is given - the full amount of the unpaid parking charge specified in this notice has not been paid in full, and we do not know both the name and current address of the driver, under paragraph 9(2)(f) of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 we will have the right to recover from the Keeper so much of that parking charge amount as remains unpaid' .” in respect of providing driver details.

Therefore, we have offered the Registered Keeper the opportunity to name the Driver at the time of the contravention.

By the appellant parking at the restricted area, they have contractually agreed to pay the parking charge notice.

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As you are dealing with a bottom-dwelling firm of ex-clampers who are IPC members, you are unlikely to win any appeal. However, you have to go though the motions.

There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. CPM has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

Crystal Palace Park is owned by the Greater London Authority (GLA) and managed under the London Parks and Open Spaces Act 1967 (as confirmed by the Ministry of Housing and Local Government Provisional Order Confirmation (Greater London Parks and Open Spaces) Act 1967). The park is also subject to the Crystal Palace Park Byelaws made under the Public Health Acts Amendment Act 1907 and Local Government Act 1972.

Accordingly, parking within Crystal Palace Park is subject to statutory control. Pursuant to Paragraph 3(1)(c) of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, land “on which parking is subject to statutory control” is expressly excluded from the definition of “relevant land”.

Therefore, Crystal Palace Park is not relevant land for the purposes of PoFA 2012, and as such, keeper liability cannot apply under any circumstances. Any claim must be directed solely against the driver, who has not been identified.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. CPM have no hope should you try to litigate, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.


Received this reply to my appeal using the script supplied.
They've obviosly not addressed the specifics raised in the script.
Just a paste and copy reply that goes out to everyone that bothers to appeal.
Thank you for your appeal against the above Parking Charge Notice.



At UK CPM we consider all appeals on a case-by-case basis. We take each appeal very seriously and thoroughly investigate any evidence that has been provided. We appreciate your circumstances and understand this is not a situation anyone would like to find themselves in; however, these parking conditions have been put in place to ensure fair usage for all motorists and support the needs of our client. After careful consideration, it is unfortunate that I am writing to you today to advise that on this occasion, your appeal has been unsuccessful.

The decision to uphold your parking charge notice has been made on the following basis.

Whilst we note the comments and reason for appeal, we can confirm that the vehicle remained on site for 57 minutes with no payment or permit made to authorise your stay. We must advise that this car park is run by Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) cameras which take a time and date stamped image of the vehicle on entry and exit, measuring the length of time the vehicle remained on site, this information is then cross-referenced with the data from the payment services & permit systems. Due to no payment or permit being found, we can confirm that this PCN has been issued correctly.             

Either due to the reason for issue and/or the insufficient evidence provided to support the details of your appeal, we have considered this PCN and found that it does not fall under the category of Annex F the Appeals Charter of the Single Code of Practice. Therefore, if no further evidence is provided, we will deem this to be our final decision.

You have now reached the end of our internal appeals procedure and therefore you now have two options; either pay or appeal to the Independent Appeals Service (IAS) - you cannot do both.

To make payment of the total amount due as shown above, please use one of the following payment options;

Online: www.paymyticket.co.uk
Telephone: 0345 463 4040 (24hr)
Post: Payments & Collections, PO Box 3114, Lancing, BN15 5BR
Alternatively, if you do not agree with your internal appeal outcome and you wish to dispute the matter further, as you have complied with our internal appeals procedure you may use, and we will engage with, the IAS Standard Appeals Service providing you lodge an appeal to them within 28 days of this rejection.

The Independent Appeals Service (www.theIAS.org) provides an Alternative Dispute Resolution scheme for disputes of this type. If you decide to appeal to the IAS, you will need to visit their website and use your PCN reference and corresponding vehicle registration. All PCN's will be uploaded to the IAS website by the end of this working day.

If you appeal this charge further then you will lose the ability to pay at the reduced rate (if applicable). In the event that your IAS appeal is unsuccessful, the full amount for the PCN will then be payable. If you lodge an appeal with the IAS and then subsequently pay the charge prior to that appeal being determined, then the appeal will be withdrawn, and you will not be given a further opportunity to contest the charge.

If you do not wish to dispute the matter further and payment is not received within 28 days of the date of this correspondence then additional charges may be incurred, for which you may be liable. If the charge continues to remain outstanding, the matter may be later referred for litigation in the County Court which could result in a County Court Judgment being made against you; this may impact on your ability to obtain credit in the future.

 




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Really appreciate this, thanks very much.

Will use it as appeal and let you know of outcome.

Absolutely scandalous situation, obvious entrapment.


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Better resolution of PCN.
Many Thanks for reply.

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The PCN picture is too low resolution to be readable, by me anyway.

Uploaded another and gave a bit more info in original post.Thanks


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Hello,

As the registered keeper I've Just received a PCN through the post.
I have added photos of the two signs (that show on google maps) on the approach to the car park
I believe the signage for the car park to be totally inadequate.
Having never visited before the driver parked and looked for any evidence/signage to say that it was a paid for car park but none was found.
The main sign as approaching doesn't mention fees does mention a payment terminal but driver couldn't find one and having reviewed on street view still doesn't know where this termnal is located.
Can't read what the seond smaller sign actually says but this was located at a fork in the road so again unclear what it is actually referring to as I believe there is another car park further on.

The was no signage of any sort at the actual height restricted entrance to the car park.

Is this worth an appeal for entrapment?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

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