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So Reply #5.
What did you find in the time since then, by searching the forum for example?

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I have requested that the moderators combine this with your existing thread.

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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC - Broadwalk Edgware, London
« on: Yesterday at 08:09:25 pm »
Why would you pay the initial fee?

It's a con.

Write to them with a Subject Access Request in order to get the original PCN and then we can help.


Thanks for this. How do I get them to resend the initial PCN?

Send a Subject Access Request asking for all the personal information they hold on you.
Look it up!
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/getting-copies-of-your-information-subject-access-request/ took me seconds to find

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I don’t think you posted the N1SDT claim form, apologies if I missed it, but you have 14+5 days from its date to file AoS and a further 14 days to file a defence.

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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC - Broadwalk Edgware, London
« on: Yesterday at 02:32:29 pm »
Unlikely.
They will say the original PCN was sent to the same address.
You have a limited time remaining to appeal, if so what would your appeal be? What background can you give us to help you here?
They will say that the driver entered into a contract by reading the signs and by parking, and agreed to pay accordingly. So are the signs clear?

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Firstly, you search the forum for similar cases.
From an earlier post in this thread:
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If you ignore Smart you will get letters from debt collectors followed by a legal Letter of Claim.
If you appeal within their deadlines, they will reject your appeal and allow you to appeal to the IAS who will also reject your appeal, followed by debt collectors and a Letter of Claim.
In either case you will eventually need to file an appeal to a court claim, so if you appeal now you have the basis for a subsequent appeal and set out your position.
Ignore debt collectors, reply to a Letter of Claim, wait for a county court claim, file a defence.

The claim will be on the basis that the driver read the signs, entered into a contract by parking, and therefore agreed to pay under the terms of the contract. Your defence needs to be why you’re not liable as claimed.

Oh, and it’s not a fine, it’s an invoice for payment under the terms of the contract the driver entered into.

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In any case, imgur is now blocked in the UK, so none of your original posts are visible to most people. Can you please repost the more relevant ones?

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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC parked at a Hospital
« on: Yesterday at 06:46:33 am »
Search the forum for UKPC cases.
Some threads go quiet, others go to DCBL and DCB Legal which need to be defended.

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Private parking tickets / Re: ParkingEye Charge for 0 hours 0 minutes
« on: June 04, 2026, 09:07:31 pm »
You need to appeal to POPLA, you presumably identified the driver in your appeal, but in this case that probably doesn’t matter.
Read the code of practice, especially the bit on “consideration periods”.
https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/Sector%20Code%20Templates/sectorsingleCodeofPracticeVersion1.1130426-2.pdf
Read https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/ if you are going to post things and ask for more specific advice on them.

From what you have said, it’s utter nonsense from Parking Eye and POPLA should cancel this, but you need to lead the POPLA assessors through your points as if they’re a bit dim, you may want to post your proposed appeal here first for comment. Pictures of the signs may be useful as part of this.

You are a victim of the private parking industry’s sham appeals process, in which most valid appeals get rejected because the parking companies want your money, and accepting an appeal means they won’t get any. I bet they said they’d “carefully considered” your appeal too.

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Private parking tickets / Re: GLL Bellingham Leisure Centre
« on: June 04, 2026, 06:14:12 pm »
Does this notice comply with all of https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4 such as
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9(1)A notice which is to be relied on as a notice to keeper for the purposes of paragraph 6(1)(b) is given in accordance with this paragraph if the following requirements are met.

(2)The notice must—

(a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;

(b)inform the keeper that the driver is required to pay parking charges in respect of the specified period of parking and that the parking charges have not been paid in full;

(c)describe the parking charges due from the driver as at the end of that period, the circumstances in which the requirement to pay them arose (including the means by which the requirement was brought to the attention of drivers) and the other facts that made them payable;

(d)specify the total amount of those parking charges that are unpaid, as at a time which is—

(i)specified in the notice; and

(ii)no later than the end of the day before the day on which the notice is either sent by post or, as the case may be, handed to or left at a current address for service for the keeper (see sub-paragraph (4));

(e)state that the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver and invite the keeper—

(i)to pay the unpaid parking charges; or

(ii)if the keeper was not the driver of the vehicle, to notify the creditor of the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver and to pass the notice on to the driver;

(f)warn the keeper that if, after the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice is given—

(i)the amount of the unpaid parking charges specified under paragraph (d) has not been paid in full, and

(ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver,

the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid;
(g)inform the keeper of any discount offered for prompt payment and the arrangements for the resolution of disputes or complaints that are available;

(h)identify the creditor and specify how and to whom payment or notification to the creditor may be made;

(i)specify the date on which the notice is sent (where it is sent by post) or given (in any other case).

(3)The notice must relate only to a single period of parking specified under sub-paragraph (2)(a) (but this does not prevent the giving of separate notices which each specify different parts of a single period of parking).

(4)The notice must be given by—

(a)handing it to the keeper, or leaving it at a current address for service for the keeper, within the relevant period; or

(b)sending it by post to a current address for service for the keeper so that it is delivered to that address within the relevant period.

(5)The relevant period for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4) is the period of 14 days beginning with the day after that on which the specified period of parking ended.

(6)A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the contrary is proved, to have been delivered (and so “given” for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4)) on the second working day after the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose “working day” means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a public holiday in England and Wales.

(7)When the notice is given it must be accompanied by any evidence prescribed under paragraph 10.

(8)In sub-paragraph (2)(g) the reference to arrangements for the resolution of disputes or complaints includes—

(a)any procedures offered by the creditor for dealing informally with representations by the keeper about the notice or any matter contained in it; and

(b)any arrangements under which disputes or complaints (however described) may be referred by the keeper to independent adjudication or arbitration.
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I don’t believe so. For example, 9(2)f.

If the driver is not identified, the registered keeper can appeal on the basis that Gemini has not complied with the requirements of the Protections of Freedoms Act 2012 to transfer liability from the driver to the registered keeper.
There are examples of simple appeals on this basis on the forum.

Even if Gemini, and then the IAS both reject this appeal, it’s our experience that APCOA (and therefore Gemini) never progress these cases further, that’s to say they won’t raise a county court claim.

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Private parking tickets / Re: GLL Bellingham Leisure Centre
« on: June 04, 2026, 05:54:36 pm »
https://apcoaconnect.com/faqs
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What are the rules for Blue Badge Parking?

The rules for Blue Badge holders differ by location and parking operator. You should always refer to local signage for full information on whether or not Blue Badge holders are required to pay for parking at the location.

Alternatively, you can search our Parking Locator tool for any details relating to a specific location. If there is no mention of Blue Badge holders being able to park for free, you should assume that you are required to make payment and proceed accordingly.

Your Blue Badge must also be displayed at all times regardless of whether a parking fee is applicable or not.
(Gemini is APCOA)

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https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/

Do not counterclaim, because if you do you will prevent DCB Legal from discontinuing.

Use MCOL and do it all online

Feel free to post your proposed defence here for comments before the deadline, which is 14+5 days from the date on the N1SDT form unless you submit an Acknowledgement of Service by this date, and if you file an AoS you get an additional 14 days for the defence submission.

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The court hearing is 3 July
The claimant has to pay the court fee by 19 June
You and the claimant need to submit Witness Statements by 19 June

It is likely that DCB Legal will discontinue but you need to be prepared to submit a Witness Statement if they do not. You have two weeks to research this.

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No, the links do not work. Fix the permissions.

The forum is full of cases involving DCB Legal if you lok for them.

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