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You should rebut everything they state in their response with which you disagree, I haven’t read their response because it’s horrible to read, but whatever points they make which are wrong you should counter.
If they completely ignored your appeal and in particular its four specific appeal points then you should restate these concisely and state why they have not addressed them.

Don’t say anything about their replying to the wrong case, that only gives them am excuse to send the proper response. If they can’t get it right, they live with the consequences.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Gemini - Copthall
« on: Today at 12:42:59 pm »
You appeal as the registerd keeper on the basis that the driver has not been identified, and will not be identified, and that they are not using the provisions of PoFA 2012 (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4) to transfer the liability from the unknown driver to the registered keeper, you can not be liable for payment of their invoice.
There are many examples on the forum of similar appeals.

Or you can follow up with the information in the link I provided and get the leisure centre to cancel it anyway.

Remember that they don’t “do” court anyway.

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No.
Ignore DCBL.
Letter of Claim will come from DCB Legal.

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Use a Subject Access Request to Euro Car Parks to obtain all the personal information they hold on you, which will include the original Notice to Keeper you did not receive.
Ignore DCBL.
Come back when you get a Letter of Claim from DCB Legal (not the same company). You will receive a country court claim in due course but hopefully by then you will have obtained the missing documents which may be helpful in constructing your defence.

You ask about similar situations; search the forum and you will find many, including https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/eurocarpark-overstay-crown-street-bolton/

There are also many in which the original notice was not received or discarded/ignored.

You will also see that the majority of cases in which DCB Legal acts on behalf of the parking company, properly defended claims are usually discontinued before the court fee has to be paid.

If you paid from 09:00 to 13:00 then you paid for 4 hours, £3.00 apparently, but you parked 08:45 to 13:05 and should have paid £3.20 for 6 hours. On such trivia do these large invoices (they're not fines) get generated. A “grace period” of ten minutes is allowed when parking is paid for, but you appear to have exceeded this too.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Gemini - Copthall
« on: Yesterday at 05:05:00 pm »
Where is Copthall and is it land under statutory control?

If not, the appeal is irrelevant, however Gemini is owned by APCOA and doesn’t take people to court.

https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/debt-recovery-plus-copthall-leisure-centre-london/msg44437/#msg44437 contains helpful information I think

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Search the forum for “N180” and you will find advice for completion of your own, which you do when a blank form is sent to you or your MCOL acount indicates that it has. The advice includes instructions for sending your own online.

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Yes, you spotted that I asked about the V5C and not about who owned the car. Even if the new owner now has a correct V5C, it has a date on it before when queries to the DVLA such as from parking companies like APCOA would have resulted in them being given the previous keeper's details, and APCOA and the like aren't allowed to ask more than once, so they need to be told.

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Just rebut everything they state with which you disagree.

eg how could the operator have received an appeal on 29/06/2026 as claimed, and that it was from the registered keeper, the driver has not been identified. They claim they received the appeal on the day they sent the NtK, unless you mis-transcribed this.

Then point out their own dates in their rebuttal doom them from using PoFA 2012. And rebut the Elliot v Loake presumption again if necessary.

Don’t boil the ocean because they’re not going to uphold your appeal and you are in the process of an eventual court claim with a likely discontinuation if defended. Loads of similar examples of Smart & DCB Legal here.

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Ignore.

Ignore debt collectors, who are powerless and will use scary words and red ink.

Your wife should have previously received a Notice to Keeper from APCOA. Is the car's V5C up to date? There is a simple response to the PCN which would have seen APCOA cancel.

In any case, APCOA do not "do" court. Ignore debt collectors and only if APCOA change their modus operandi, come back if you get a Letter of Claim from a solicitor.

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Contact the court or, if MCOL allows payment, do that.
If the judgment is left unpaid for more than 30 days after its date, there will be a record on the relevant credit file for six years.
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If there are any doubts, you should contact the court. Don’t wait for the N30 for too long.

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Posted yesterday at https://www.ftla.uk/news-press-articles/ukpc-and-others-under-investigation-by-the-cma-for-petrol-stations-and-appeals-h/

The title has been corrected to Euro Car Parks, but the link is showing my initial error.

Probably best to keep discussion in one place.

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Yes, the argument can be that there is some "cost" to the parking companies in issuing these tickets, so £20 is compensation for this, but if 40,000 tickets are issued daily and 25% of them are paid that's £1m/day collectively, so the odd £20 here and there is a drop in the ocean.

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Just do as @InterCity125 has advised, if you wrote back discussing the cheese content of the moon it wouldn’t make any difference, they’re going to issue a court claim regardless and you’re just documenting that you’re not a pushover for them and for the courts.

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