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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: October 02, 2025, 04:09:44 pm »
No worries.

So the email is still fine to send as it is and I just put today's date against point 1 and then 7 days from now for point 2?

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: October 02, 2025, 02:52:20 pm »
Sorry, I'm a bit confused now.

I don't recall receiving a "Notice of Allocation" or anything from a local court, nor anything regarding hearing dates or trial fees.

Essentially I've just had the initial PCN from Euro Car Parks. That was then passed to DCBL and latterly DCB Legal.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: October 01, 2025, 03:46:05 pm »
Ok thanks. I'll give that a shot.

Just to clarify - the "issue date" for point 1 - is that the date the original PCN was issued?

Also the date for 2a - do I just put 7 days from today? I'm not sure what the £27 hearing fee date is that you refer to.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: September 30, 2025, 01:23:00 pm »
Back again...

Received the following email from DCB Legal today:

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We write in response to your recent correspondence.

WITHOUT PREJUDICE

To assist, our Client may be prepared to settle this case. I can confirm our Client would be agreeable to £60.00 in full and final settlement of this Claim. The current outstanding balance is £170.00.

Should you be agreeable to this offer, please confirm the same within 7 days. Payment can be made via our website www.dcblegal.co.uk, by calling our office on 0203 838 7038 or via bank transfer:

DCB Legal Ltd Client Account
Sort Code: 20-24-09
Account no: 60964441

When making payment please ensure you include the following reference number, [REDACTED], to enable us to allocate it to the correct case.

Upon receipt of the settlement sum of £60.00 we will update the Client that the matter has been settled. If you are not agreeable, we will continue to follow the Court process as normal and issue a Claim without further notice.

Do I assume this is them up against the ropes and trying desperately to get something out of it?

Is there a particular reply I should go back with now?

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: August 25, 2025, 11:26:20 pm »
Thanks again. Email sent.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: August 22, 2025, 10:36:56 pm »
Ok, so I have now received an email response from DCB Legal as follows:


Dear [redacted],

We write in response to your correspondence received in our office.

The parking charge has been issued as your vehicle was parked for longer than the maximum period allowed. The signs on site would have clearly outlined the terms and conditions of the site.

When parking on private land, the contractual terms of the site are set out on the signs. You are entering a contract and agreeing to the terms by parking and staying on the site. Parking in breach of the terms as stipulated on the signage means that you are then breaking the terms of the contract.

The Notice to Keeper was issued to you on 27/04/2023. A copy is attached. You were afforded the opportunity to; appeal the parking charge, transfer liability to the driver (if it was not you) or make payment. Neither a successful appeal, nor an adequate nomination were received, yet payment remains outstanding.

The Reminder Notice was issued to you on 27/05/2023. A copy is attached. This notice reiterated that payment was outstanding and confirmed that legal action may be taken, and additional costs incurred if the parking charge was not paid.

The amount owed is a genuine pre-estimate of the losses incurred in managing the parking location to ensure compliance with the clearly displayed terms and conditions. However, in Parking Eye Ltd v Beavis, it was found, both at County Court and Court of Appeal level, that appealing a Parking Charge on the basis that the amount is not a genuine pre-estimate of loss is, in fact, not a successful legal defence.

The sum added is a contribution to the actual costs incurred by our Client as a result of your non-payment. Our Client’s employees have spent time and material attempting to recover the debt. This is not our Client’s usual business and the resources could have been better spent in other areas of the business. Had you of paid as per the Contract, there would have been no need for recovery action so the amount due would not have increased. 

For the avoidance of doubt, the outstanding balance consists of £100.00 for the breach in contract as per the signage displayed on site, and £70.00 debt recovery fee.

The HMRC ‘VAT Supply and Consideration manual’ (VATSC06140), confirmed that parking charge falls out of the scope of VAT.

If there are any documents or information that you have requested, but that are not enclosed, it is because we have deemed the request to be disproportionate and/or not relevant to the substantive issues in dispute. We respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.

You now have 30 days from the date of this email/letter to make payment of £170.00. Failure to make payment will result in a Claim being issued against you without any further reference.

Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account: -

Account Name: DCB Legal Ltd Client Account
Sort Code: 20-24-09
Account Number: 60964441
You must quote the correct case reference [redacted] when making payment. If you do not, we may be unable to correctly allocate the payment. If further action is taken by us as a result of an incorrect reference being quoted, you will be liable for any further fees or costs incurred.

Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/.


Where do I go from here?

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: June 27, 2025, 05:27:05 pm »
Many thanks. I shall do just that.

Appreciate your assistance.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: June 27, 2025, 12:34:31 pm »
Copy of letter received:

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: June 27, 2025, 11:47:01 am »
Yes, it's a Letter of Claim. Would it help if I uploaded a copy or are they pretty standard worded templates?

For clarity, I had no correspondence with DCBL. It was Euro Car Parks I wrote to.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: June 27, 2025, 10:52:10 am »
Hi all,

Returning to this as I've now received the letter from DCB Legal.

To fill you in on the full picture, I  contacted Euro Car Parks (as the RK) in between with the following:

"I have received a letter from Direct Collection Bailiffs Ltd in relation to the above referenced parking charge notice.

As per the previous two letters sent to yourself (attached), I have informed you that I was not the driver of the vehicle at the time of the alleged offence.

Please instruct your client, DCBL, to cease further action with immediate effect and stop harassing me regarding this matter."


Their response was that their unable to accept the correspondence as the PCN had now been passed to DCBL.

What's my next step(s)?

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: May 15, 2025, 04:53:04 pm »
I'm happy to fight it if you're confident of a successful outcome. I have no idea so will follow the advice given.

Unless for any reason you'd suggest not to, I'd prefer to fight it myself as the driver, just to save my wife the hassle.

So I'll write to them again (as the RK) informing them of my details as the driver and then follow the advice given.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: May 15, 2025, 01:49:08 pm »
Original PCN received attached for reference.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: May 14, 2025, 10:26:04 am »
I was the driver and the the keeper is my wife.

There's no intention to throw anyone else under the bus. I was just merely following the instructions on the initial PCN which was to notify them of the driver if it was someone else other than the keeper.

So I'll notify ECP again (as the RK) of the correct details of the driver. I then ignore any further reissued PCN's, and claims unless one is received from DCB Legal, at which point I'll come back on here for further advice.

If I've got any of that incorrect, please let me know, otherwise I'll be back once I receive that court claim.

Thanks again for all the help.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: May 13, 2025, 03:25:51 pm »
Apologies for any lack of clarity. In response to the above questions:

Why continue to engage with them? I don't know. I'm unsure what the correct approach should be, hence the original post.
Is there something you’re not telling us deliberately? No, I've mentioned everything above
Can the registered keeper provide evidence that they supplied the driver's details to Euro Car Parks? Copies of letters sent will be saved on a laptop but would that be sufficient? The letters weren't sent via a tracked delivery method so could it be argued that they may never have actually been posted (even though they were)?

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Private parking tickets / Euro Car Parks - DCBL Debt Recovery
« on: May 13, 2025, 03:01:45 pm »
Hi,

Hopefully followed the guidelines correct - apologies in advance if not!

PCN received by registered keeper (RK) from Euro Car Parks back in 2023. As per the instructions on the letter, RK responded back to notify them of the vehicle driver's (VD) details. After receiving another notice, responding to that again and then receiving final response notices, I tried to call them several times to discuss this but they refused to speak to me as the VD, as the PCN was not issued in my name. Their phone lines were only open from 9-5pm, during hours where the RK was unable to contact them due to work. I explained the situation and made it clear that there was no way the RK could call but they just outright refused to speak to me.

Everything then went quiet and no further letters were received, so I assumed they'd given up with it. But now 2 years down the line the RK has received a letter from DCBL (Direct Collection Bailiffs Ltd) regarding recovery of this outstanding amount.

I gather from reading some of the other threads on here that DCBL are powerless to enforce anything and should just be ignored. Should another letter be sent to Euro Car Parks to try and inform them of the VD again? In that case, and if they were to reissue in the VD's name, then what?

Alternatively if further letters are then received by DCB Legal, who I understand have more power to enforce, then what action needs to be taken?

Appreciate any advice.

Thanks

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