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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC - Broadwalk Edgware, London
« on: June 07, 2026, 02:08:38 pm »
In the meantime, do you want to give us the driver’s story here? Any background will be helpful to the defence along with the original PCN.

I'll work on getting the PCN. Other than that, not much I can say about the background. Only salient point is that as you may be able to see from the image in the doc, that to the rear of the space, there's a lamppost with metal bars around it for protection. The driver wanted to avoid colliding with the metal frame.

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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC - Broadwalk Edgware, London
« on: June 07, 2026, 06:54:20 am »


Send a Subject Access Request asking for all the personal information they hold on you.
Look it up!
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/getting-copies-of-your-information-subject-access-request/ took me seconds to find
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Thanks. If I do the subject access request, will that include the PCN?

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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC - Broadwalk Edgware, London
« on: June 05, 2026, 06:22:13 pm »
Unlikely.
They will say the original PCN was sent to the same address.
You have a limited time remaining to appeal, if so what would your appeal be? What background can you give us to help you here?
They will say that the driver entered into a contract by reading the signs and by parking, and agreed to pay accordingly. So are the signs clear?

Well firstly I'm keen to see if the good people here are aware of any universally applicable strategies could be deployed here.

If not, there is always the fact that the registered keeper of the vehicle was not the one who carried out the alleged contravention.

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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC - Broadwalk Edgware, London
« on: June 05, 2026, 06:20:31 pm »
Why would you pay the initial fee?

It's a con.

Write to them with a Subject Access Request in order to get the original PCN and then we can help.


Thanks for this. How do I get them to resend the initial PCN?

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Private parking tickets / UKPC - Broadwalk Edgware, London
« on: June 05, 2026, 02:00:07 pm »
This was received at Broadwalk Shopping Centre, Edgware, London.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TknF7MRtENnotc86pnL3I0v9NwIdPd3x/view?usp=sharing

Two queries; How can we get this cancelled?

If we can't, this was the first we heard of it - can we get them to reinstate initial fee?

Thanks all

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Private parking tickets / Re: Luton Airport Drop off/Pick up
« on: May 13, 2026, 10:44:04 am »
This is the letter I've received. I received this only after I called them after getting threatening emails about me not responding to the letter they sent out, which I never received.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19RF1XigjB9TUxDhyuer1-LZU33aAS3XQ/view?usp=drive_link

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Private parking tickets / Re: Luton Airport Drop off/Pick up
« on: May 06, 2026, 04:17:22 pm »
Hi all.

So APCOA sent letters requesting payment for several months.

Ignored all of them and thought this had gone away.

Got a text from Moorside Debt recovery and have been told a letter is on the way.

What now?

TIA

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Private parking tickets / Re: Luton Airport Drop off/Pick up
« on: July 30, 2025, 03:59:48 pm »
Cheers pal

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Private parking tickets / Re: Luton Airport Drop off/Pick up
« on: July 30, 2025, 03:49:44 pm »
Thanks - much appreciated. And again, just to confirm that all that applies even when they know who the driver was?

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Private parking tickets / Re: Luton Airport Drop off/Pick up
« on: July 30, 2025, 03:39:14 pm »
Hi all. So I've now received a first letter from debt recovery plus. I've seen in a few threads (including this one), that apcoa don't do court. But is a letter of claim more likely in a case where they know for a fact who the driver was?

Thanks all

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Private parking tickets / Re: Luton Airport Drop off/Pick up
« on: April 29, 2025, 09:10:59 pm »
I'm aware. I only found about this forum, and other more effective appeal templates, after I'd already submitted that one.

So the question is, will this simply blow over? If it doesn't, how will I know when I need to take the letters etc seriously?

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Private parking tickets / Re: Luton Airport Drop off/Pick up
« on: April 29, 2025, 07:03:16 pm »
Thanks. Here's what I initially appealed to Apcoa with:
"Since the fire in the multistorey carpark a couple of years ago, the layout in London Luton Airport is continually changing. The drop off/pick up area has moved and the signage changes every time. It is not helped by the fact that previously there was a barrier to exit and payment was taken immediately. It is immensely confusing. When I saw the area marked out, I had understood that the first five minutes of parking time is not charged, so being that I was in for less than two minutes, I had understood that I did not need to pay. If that was incorrect then I'd of course be prepared to pay the original charge, but I'd appreciate if you could cancel the PCN."

They of course rejected and provided multiple images of the signage.

I then took sent the following to Popla:
“I am the registered keeper. APCOA cannot hold a registered keeper liable for any alleged contravention on
land that is under statutory control. As a matter of fact and law, APCOA will be well aware that they cannot
use the PoFA provisions because Luton Airport is not 'relevant land'. If Luton Airport wanted to hold owners
or keepers liable under Airport Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift and another matter entirely.
However, not only is that not pleaded, it is also not legally possible because APCOA is not the Airport owner
and your 'parking charge' is not and never attempts to be a penalty. It is created for APCOA's own profit (as
opposed to a bylaws penalty that goes to the public purse) and NCP has relied on contract law allegations of
breach against the driver only. The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver,
nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
APCOA have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the
PCN.”

Their rejection to this can be seen in the doc uploaded to the Google Drive link above.

Hope that helps.

Any chance of a rebuttal?

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Private parking tickets / Re: Luton Airport Drop off/Pick up
« on: April 29, 2025, 03:07:12 pm »
Just for avoidance of doubt, here's what's happened so far:

- The screenshot in that folder is what I originally appealed to APCOA (that was before I knew about the standard appeal template for this car park)

- They refused the original appeal

- I came to this forum to ask for advice

- I was advised here not to pay the PCN (then £25, now £95) - and instead appeal via POPLA with the standard template (I am the registered keeper. APCOA cannot hold a registered keeper liable...)

- I pointed out that the content of the template was at odds with my first appeal

- I was advised here that even though the appeal would probably be unsuccessful, i needn't worry as the worst that will happen is a bunch of letters until APCOA give up

Do I continue with this course?


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Private parking tickets / Re: Luton Airport Drop off/Pick up
« on: April 29, 2025, 01:20:45 pm »
See here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1myXvAWyyjrmPkHo_-cleFxfcZzBsjl86/view?usp=drive_link

As far as I understood from previous poster jfollows; the appeal probably wouldn't be successful in any event


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Private parking tickets / Re: Luton Airport Drop off/Pick up
« on: April 29, 2025, 12:20:17 pm »
Hi there. Apcoa have now responded to the appeal to Popla. As expected, they've pointed out that the subsequent claim conflicts my initial claim. Popla now giving me the opportunity to respond to Apcoa evidence. Is there anything I should enter?

Cheers

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