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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Barnet - 53J (Moss Hall, School Street) - Nether Street into Essex Park Road
« on: April 30, 2025, 06:48:54 pm »
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Barnet - 53J (Moss Hall, School Street) - Nether Street into Essex Park Road
« on: April 30, 2025, 06:33:37 pm »
Would it be OK for me to email you the documents?
Should I continue to omit the details as well within email?
Should I continue to omit the details as well within email?
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Barnet - 53J (Moss Hall, School Street) - Nether Street into Essex Park Road
« on: April 30, 2025, 06:23:39 pm »
I didn't receive any email responses from Barnet so assumed that the matter had quietly been dropped. It seems that I was wishful in my thinking.
Today on the 30th April, I received a rejection of representation letter dated 25th April 2025.
I can't tell whether there has been a new sign placed up since March.
Today on the 30th April, I received a rejection of representation letter dated 25th April 2025.
I can't tell whether there has been a new sign placed up since March.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Barnet - 53J (Moss Hall, School Street) - Nether Street into Essex Park Road
« on: March 28, 2025, 10:25:39 pm »
Thank you all.
I'm waiting for a response from Barnet regarding my first PCN. Would I be mistaken in thinking I should focus on contesting the first PCN only or should I be submitting an appeal for the second PCN and any subsequent PCNs as well?
Yes. I wasn't sure if I had missed the earlier warning sign. It's unclear whether this is now a permanent change or still within an experimental stage
https://www.engage.barnet.gov.uk/moss-hall-school (2023 - 1 month survey)
https://www.engage.barnet.gov.uk/moss-hall-federation-school-street (2025)
Thanks I appreciate it and the advice you have contributed to other posters here. It's been informative to understand what's going on.
I'm waiting for a response from Barnet regarding my first PCN. Would I be mistaken in thinking I should focus on contesting the first PCN only or should I be submitting an appeal for the second PCN and any subsequent PCNs as well?
And only one sign too ! I think you have a reasonable case; if there had been two signs, one per side of the road entrance, your case would be weaker. However this and no advance warning sign makes a good case for taking them all the way to London Tribunals.
I had a quick look on London Tribunals statutory register but didn't find any appeals against the restriction, so you might be the first one if you take them that far.
Yes. I wasn't sure if I had missed the earlier warning sign. It's unclear whether this is now a permanent change or still within an experimental stage
https://www.engage.barnet.gov.uk/moss-hall-school (2023 - 1 month survey)
https://www.engage.barnet.gov.uk/moss-hall-federation-school-street (2025)
If you have already cast the dice by making representations there is nothing to do until they are rejected at which time you might want to instruct me to be your representative as I am local and know this location. I turned left into it last week, on a Sunday so ok, and you can't make out a bloody thing on the sign. My email is mrmustard@zoho.com
I have an earlier case in hand at this location.
Thanks I appreciate it and the advice you have contributed to other posters here. It's been informative to understand what's going on.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Barnet - 53J (Moss Hall, School Street) - Nether Street into Essex Park Road
« on: March 27, 2025, 09:57:50 pm »
Hello,
Recently started driving again and have been stung by the first of potentially multiple PCNs heading my way. In the past, making a sharp left-turn in this medium sized road (Essex Park) would involve observing vehicles emerging from it; in addition to focusing on incoming vehicles making a right turn.
My plea:
1. There are no advanced warning signs leading up to the left turn. https://maps.app.goo.gl/t8jMdKGUstJtEUXm9
2. The road narrows slightly which leads to higher focus on emerging vehicles. It's difficult to see that the road is restricted without seeing a warning sign on the right hand side of Essex Park Road. https://maps.app.goo.gl/KuYcP2LosCTwhft77
PCN: https://postimg.cc/FfJbJjFd and https://postimg.cc/wRKNCkP5
https://postimg.cc/GTbvNVFG
https://postimg.cc/BLTxm4KJ
https://postimg.cc/xqQGcJw8
I've sent an appeal email pleading for leniency while also stating the above points.
I've found these two old threads that are semi-relevant:
https://medium.com/@iamhomersimpson/moss-hall-school-street-consultation-respond-to-survey-by-thursday-17-october-7a3ad39b2612
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/barnet-code-53j-entering-in-pedestrian-zone-nether-st-right-turn-into-moss-hall-/ (Different Road)
Recently started driving again and have been stung by the first of potentially multiple PCNs heading my way. In the past, making a sharp left-turn in this medium sized road (Essex Park) would involve observing vehicles emerging from it; in addition to focusing on incoming vehicles making a right turn.
My plea:
1. There are no advanced warning signs leading up to the left turn. https://maps.app.goo.gl/t8jMdKGUstJtEUXm9
2. The road narrows slightly which leads to higher focus on emerging vehicles. It's difficult to see that the road is restricted without seeing a warning sign on the right hand side of Essex Park Road. https://maps.app.goo.gl/KuYcP2LosCTwhft77
PCN: https://postimg.cc/FfJbJjFd and https://postimg.cc/wRKNCkP5
https://postimg.cc/GTbvNVFG
https://postimg.cc/BLTxm4KJ
https://postimg.cc/xqQGcJw8
I've sent an appeal email pleading for leniency while also stating the above points.
I've found these two old threads that are semi-relevant:
https://medium.com/@iamhomersimpson/moss-hall-school-street-consultation-respond-to-survey-by-thursday-17-october-7a3ad39b2612
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/barnet-code-53j-entering-in-pedestrian-zone-nether-st-right-turn-into-moss-hall-/ (Different Road)
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