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Looking at the PCN, I would say that 9(2)(e) has been met and it is on page 2 under TRANSFERRING LIABILITY FOR THIS CHARGE

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That is good news, I certainly will not be throwing anyone else under the bus in future.

For reference and also out of curiosity why is this NtK not fully compliant with PoFA?

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I have attached a copy of the original PCN received in response to the SAR.

I did complete the driver/hirer identification form and although I am certain it was posted by recorded delivery, I do not have proof of that fact.

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I suggest you now send copies of all correspondence in a formal complaint to the DVLA evidencing their complete disregard for PoFa and the BPA/IPC PPSCoP.

Again please forgive my total dumbness here but:-

1) Is this a formal complaint to the DVLA over Alliance Parking's disregard for PoFa and the BPA/IPC PPSCop, Or DVLA's disregard for giving my info to Alliance Parking.

2) I do not fully understand how PoFa and the BPA/IPC PPSCoP in my case may have been "disregarded", how exactly have they shown this disregard?

3) I cannot find a email address to send this complaint to, is there an email address or will it have to be sent via post.

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Received the following in reply to the complaint -

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Thank you for your email.

I have reviewed your complaint and find the following:
We have not received driver details from you.
The Notice to Keeper provided clear instructions on how to appeal.
The Notice to Keeper provided clear instructions on how to submit a complaint.
In light of the above, I am unable to find any merit to your complaint.

This concludes our internal complaints procedure.

If you are unhappy with how your complaint has been handled, you may escalate your complaint to our trade association here: https://portal.theipc.info/login/complaints

Note: If you have not previously used the portal, you will need to register here first: https://portal.theipc.info/user

Sincerely,
Complaints Department

I also received this from the Admin dept

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Thank you for your email.

We have reviewed your case and can confirm that we have not received a completed Driver Identification Form for this Parking Charge.

Furthermore, it is unclear why the driver did not make payment or submit an appeal upon receipt of the Notice to Keeper that you were instructed to forward for their attention.

If you wish to transfer liability, please provide the drivers name and address by return and we will write to them.

Please note the following:

By providing driver details, you authorise us to send them a copy of your Notice to Keeper; which encompasses your personal data.

If we do not receive a response to our letter to the alleged driver, we may revert the charge back to you (as the Registered Keeper). We need to have this policy to deter people from providing fictitious details.

Sincerely,
Administration Department

I don't believe there was any wording on the original NTK requesting that I forward the NTK to the actual driver, only for me to complete the form (on the reverse side of The NTK) and return it to Alliance Parking.


I also received an email relating to the Subject Access Request (SAR) which included several pieces of information all relating to the original PCN and overstay.

I did note that the vehicle originally entered the carpark at 20:07:47; the parking ticket was paid for at 20:10:26 and expired at 21:10:26 The vehicle finally left at 21:21:23.

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Have just sent both those emails and I now await a response - will obviously keep this thread updated if/when they respond.

Thanks again for your advice b789 and apologies for needing you to explain that!!!

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Wow,  thanks for this comprehensive reply b789


Requester (data subject) information

(a). Full name:
(b). Date of birth:
(c). Address:
(d). Email address:
(e). Telephone number:
(f). PCN number:
(g). VRM:
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Probably a dum question but do I replace a,b,c,d,e,f,g, with my actual "Full Name", DOB, Address......etc?

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In June 2023, I received a PCN for a parking charge relating to an overstay on the 31st May 2023 at a privately owed car park in Cornwall, England. I am the registered keeper but I was neither the driver nor anywhere near Cornwall at the time. I immediately completed & returned the PCN giving the details of the actual drivers name and address.

Since then I have heard nothing from Alliance-Parking until I received in the post a Final Demand from them yesterday (21 months later). They threaten that if I don't pay £100 by 02/04/2025 they will forward the case on to their Litigation Dept and commence County Court Proceedings.

The driver who I had named has received absolutely no correspondence at all from Alliance-Parking.

I stupidly did not make a copy of the original PCN nor did I return the details of the actual driver by recorded delivery.

I have tried to make an appeal via their website portal but this was not allowed, I assume due to the time that had passed since the original PCN.

Where do I stand? Can they pursue a PCN even though 21 months has elapsed and they have made no contact during that time?

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