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In full :

The appellant has provided a detailed account surrounding the parking event in question. For the purpose of my report, I have summarised the grounds raised into the points below. • The Notice to Hirer fails to comply with POFA, schedule 4, paragraphs 13 and 14 • The operator has failed to provide the required documents • There is no evidence of the driver's identity • The signage is ambiguous and has unenforceable terms • The signs fail the test of fairness and transparency under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 • No evidence of landowner authority • They request documents from the operator • They are the hirer of the vehicle and do not identify as the driver The appellant has provided 1. A copy of a third party document naming the hirer of the vehicle After reviewing the operator’s evidence, the appellant reiterates on their grounds of appeal. They expand on PoFA and the signage in the car park. All of the above has been considered in making my determination.

Assessor supporting rational for decision
I am allowing this appeal and will detail my reasoning below. By issuing a PCN the parking operator has implied that the terms and conditions of the private land have not been met. When an appeal is brought to POPLA, the burden of proof begins with the parking operator to demonstrate the breach they claim has occurred. I must therefore assess the terms and conditions of the site, any relevant code of practice, or legislation to determine if the PCN has been issued correctly. In this case the operator has issued the PCN for remaining at the car park for longer than the authorised stay. In this appeal, I am satisfied that the driver of the vehicle has not been identified. The appellant is appealing on behalf of a company and that company hired the vehicle in question. As the operator is chasing the appellant as the hirer they will need to comply with Section 13 of the Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012 which states the following: “A notice to hirer can be issued; If within 29 days of the date of the notice to keeper (starting 2 working days after the date on the notice to keeper, if sent by post) the vehicle hire company provides; · a statement signed by a representative of the vehicle hire company stating that the vehicle was hired out at the time · a copy of the hire agreement · a copy of a statement of liability signed by the person who hired the vehicle stating that the hirer will be responsible for any parking charges incurred while it is hired (it doesn’t matter if it refers to any other charges, it must refer to parking charges). On review of the case file provided, the operator has failed to show the above documents have been received which would enable them to transfer liability for the PCN successfully to the appellant, as the hirer. As such, the appellant cannot be held liable for the parking charge. I note the appellant has raised other issues as grounds for appeal, however, as I have decided to allow the appeal for the reason above, I did not feel they required further consideration.

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Good afternoon gang - I'm pleased to say, thanks to all your help, my appeal was accepted on the following grounds:

-The appellant has provided a detailed account surrounding the parking event in question. For the purpose of my report, I have summarised the grounds raised into the points below. • The Notice to Hirer fails to comply with POFA, schedule 4, paragraphs 13 and 14 • The operator has failed to provide the required documents • There is no evidence of the driver's identity • The signage is ambiguous and has unenforceable terms • The signs fail the test of fairness and transparency under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 • No evidence of landowner authority • They request documents from the operator • They are the hirer of the vehicle and do not identify as the driver The appellant has provided 1. A copy of a third party document naming the hirer of the vehicle After reviewing the operator’s evidence, the appellant reiterates on their grounds of appeal. They expand on PoFA and the signage in the car park. All of the above has been considered in making my determination..

Thank you again.  Is there a pub kitty I can contribute to?

:-*  :-*  :-*

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Thank you - I really, really appreciate it.  I'll update in due course.

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Thank you - I have looked around the site to try and guide myself with existing info but I end up coming to a wall an over thinking the whole thing  :o   I'd be grateful if I could Google Drive it for some expert guidance.

I hope the link works - GD Link

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Morning guys - I've had a reply from Popla with 2 documents of evidence from the operator - none of which contain any hire contracts of the vehicle I'm leasing. 

Document 1 is 45 pages long which just outlines the case with a ton of additional information about parking, ANPR, letter of authority from land owner to pursue parking charges, signage info, my appeal details, maps etc

Document 2 is just a screenshot outlining who Parking Eye are.

I am now instructed to:

"Please provide your comments on the operator evidence.
You have 7 days from the operator evidence submission date - 15/04/2025. You will not have opportunity to edit or add further detail once you have submitted your comments."

It feels like my comments are hitting a wall and no-one is listening ... is this standard procedure?  This is so tedious I can't believe how much time they are wasting over a frigging parking space. 

What other comments do I need to submit that I haven't already to continue?  Thank you for your time.

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Thank you so much. It is alot to take in but it is evident you all know what you are talking about, and i appreciate it.  I will keep you updated.

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You are under absolutely no legal obligation to evidence that you were or were not the driver. They already know that you were the Keeper because they obtained your DVLA data from your V5C.

Don't overthink this. Just send what you have been advised to do.

Sorry - I edited my response! I had a 3rd party letter proving I'm not the Registered Keeper to hand.  But again, thank you for your guidance, whatever the outcome, I really appreciate the time you've all given for this.

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Here it is amended and an extra point of appeal added:

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POPLA Appeal: Grounds – Non-compliance with PoFA 2012, Ambiguous Signage, and No Evidence of Landowner Authority

I am the Hirer of the vehicle and am appealing this Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on two principal grounds:

1. The Notice to Hirer (NtH) fails to comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (Schedule 4, Paragraphs 13 and 14)

To transfer liability from the Keeper (in this case, the Hire company) to the Hirer, PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 Paragraphs 13 and 14 impose a series of strict requirements. These include not only the content of the Notice to Hirer, but also the obligation to enclose three specific documents, as listed in Paragraph 13(2):

13(2): “The documents are— (a) a copy of the statement of liability signed by the hirer under the hire agreement; (b) a copy of the hire agreement; and (c) a statement signed by or on behalf of the vehicle-hire firm confirming that the information contained in the statement of liability is correct.

In accordance with Paragraph 14(2)(a), the operator must, within the relevant period, give the Hirer a Notice to Hirer accompanied by:

• The Notice to Keeper;
• A copy of the hire agreement;
• A copy of the statement of liability signed by the Hirer;
• A statement from the hire company confirming the hire details.

ParkingEye has failed to provide the required documents with the NtH. This renders their attempt to transfer liability to the Hirer legally ineffective.

As per Paragraph 14(1), a creditor may only pursue the Hirer if both:

• they are unable to pursue the Keeper under Paragraph 13(2); and
• they have fully met the conditions in Paragraph 14(2), including providing the required documentation.

Failure to include these documents invalidates the NtH for the purposes of PoFA, and therefore the Hirer cannot be held liable.

2. No Evidence of Driver Identity – No Presumption or Inference Permitted

As established above, the Notice to Hirer does not comply with PoFA 2012, and therefore the operator cannot transfer liability to the Hirer. In the absence of compliance with Schedule 4, liability for the charge can only rest with the driver.

Parking Eye has provided no evidence identifying the driver of the vehicle at the material time. The operator has simply issued a Notice to Hirer and proceeded on the basis that the recipient is liable.

There is, however, no legal presumption that the Hirer (or Keeper) was the driver. This has been firmly established in persuasive case law, including the appeal judgment in Vehicle Control Services Ltd v Edward (2023). In that case, the Circuit Judge held that:

“It is not open to a parking company to rely on a presumption, or even the balance of probabilities, to assert that the keeper was the driver.”

This ruling confirms that liability cannot be inferred or assumed where a parking operator has chosen not to rely on PoFA or has failed to comply with its terms. In such circumstances, the burden of proof remains entirely with the operator to prove the identity of the driver.

As no such evidence has been provided in this case, and the NtH is non-compliant with PoFA, there is no lawful basis to pursue the Hirer. The appeal must be allowed on this ground alone.

3. Signage – Ambiguous and Unenforceable Terms

The signage at the site makes reference to different conditions on a “match day” or “event day,” yet provides no explanation or definition of what qualifies as a “match” or “event,” nor does it indicate how a motorist is supposed to identify such days.

There is no calendar, noticeboard, or real-time information provided on site. The ordinary motorist — the reasonable person — cannot be expected to research third-party sports fixtures or event schedules online to determine whether enhanced restrictions apply.

This renders the term “match day” vague, ambiguous, and incapable of forming a clear and enforceable contract. This is contrary to the requirement that all contractual terms be communicated transparently and unambiguously before a contract can be said to have been accepted.

This is particularly important in the context of parking charges, which carry an element of penalty. In ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67, the Supreme Court highlighted the importance of prominent and transparent signage in forming enforceable parking contracts.

In this case, the signage fails to:

• Define a key term (“match day”),
• Indicate when that term applies,
• Offer any clear method for determining whether additional restrictions are active.

Consequently, any term reliant on this ambiguity fails the test of fairness and transparency under the Consumer Rights Act 2015.

4. The operator has not provided evidence of landowner authority or signage validity

Parking Eye is put to strict proof that it has a valid and current contract with the landowner. POPLA is respectfully reminded that the burden of proof lies with the operator. It is not sufficient for the operator merely to assert that it has authority.

Accordingly, I require that POPLA compel the operator to produce:

• A full and unredacted copy of the contemporaneous written agreement with the landowner;
• Evidence that the contract specifically allows Parking Eye to issue Parking Charge Notices in its own name and to take legal action to enforce them;
• Proof that the signage relied upon — particularly any referencing "match day" restrictions — formed part of the landowner’s authorisation;
• Confirmation that there have been no material changes to the signage, site layout, or contractual terms since the date of that agreement, or evidence that any such changes were approved by the landowner.

If the operator fails to provide this evidence, then it has no standing and no legal authority to pursue this charge.

Conclusion

• The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4, Paragraphs 13 and 14. As such, Parking Eye has no lawful basis to transfer liability from the hire company to the Hirer.
• The operator has not provided any evidence identifying the driver, and no presumption or inference can be made. The appeal case VCS v Edward (2023, Sheffield County Court) confirms that an operator cannot rely on any assumption, inference, or “balance of probabilities” to assert that the Hirer was the driver in the absence of PoFA compliance.
• The signage is ambiguous, particularly in relation to undefined “match day” or “event day” restrictions. These terms are unclear, not time-specific, and cannot be reasonably understood by a typical motorist without external research, rendering them incapable of forming a fair and transparent contract.
• The operator has failed to provide evidence of landowner authority, and no contract has been shown that demonstrates the signage relied upon forms part of the landowner’s authorisation, nor that any material changes have been approved.

For all of the above reasons, I respectfully request that POPLA uphold this appeal and instruct Parking Eye to cancel the Parking Charge Notice in full.

Huge thanks for this - have submitted and now we wait.  Fingers crossed.  ???

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HC... Aside from the fact that it isn't a penalty charge notice, I'm not sure I agree with that approach.

In an ideal world, where POPLA were fit for purpose, it would work. In the real world, where they are not, they won't consider points that are not explicitly mentioned. Therefore, talking them through what would have to have happened for the operator to have been able to hold the hirer liable, then explaining why that hasn't happened here, is in my view more likely to succeed.

Thank you - would you mind checking my above response and OK'ing it to send to POPLA? I appreciate all the feedback.

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Evening folks..

I've drafted up the following, how does it look?

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I am appealing this Parking Charge Notice (PCN) issued by Parking Eye as the Hirer on the following grounds:

The Notice to Hirer (NtH) fails to comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), Schedule 4, Paragraphs 13 & 14, meaning liability cannot be transferred to the Hirer.

The Notice to Hirer (NtH) Fails to Comply with PoFA Schedule 4, Paragraphs 13 & 14. To transfer liability from the Keeper to the Hirer, PoFA Schedule 4, Paragraph 14(2) explicitly requires that the operator provides:

A copy of the hire agreement.
A copy of the statement of liability signed by the Hirer.
A statement signed by or on behalf of the hire company confirming that the vehicle was on hire during the alleged contravention.

Parking Eye has failed to provide any of these documents with the NtH. Without full compliance with these mandatory conditions, the Hirer cannot be held liable under PoFA.

Legal Reference: PoFA Schedule 4, Paragraph 14(2) states:“The creditor may not recover the charge from the hirer under paragraph 4 unless the creditor has given the hirer a notice in accordance with sub-paragraph (2) (and for the purposes of this paragraph, a reference in paragraph 6(1) or (2) to a notice to the keeper includes a reference to a notice to the hirer).”

Given the failure to comply with PoFA 2012, meaning liability cannot be transferred to the Hirer, this Parking Charge Notice is unenforceable. Therefore, I request that POPLA uphold this appeal and cancel the charge immediately.

Additionally, the signs display in the car park, parking restrictions during Match days.  How is the average person expected to know what qualifies as a match or event day, and then expected to know the dates and time of when such Matches or events are held?  The ambiguous phrase ‘Match day’ or ‘Event’ cannot be reasonably understood without external knowledge.

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Thanks both - I'll take a look and put something together and post back for feedback before I send - worried I'm not going to get my wording correct as I need to understand what it is exactly I'm taking about.   :-\

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I've looked through the forum - would this be ok to forward to POPLA?

To whome it may concern, I am appealing against the PCN as the Hirer of the lease vehicle however, I was NOT driving the vehicle at the time of the PCN charge. I have no legal obligation to identify the driver and I am therefore, declining to do so.  After viewing the photographic evidence presented by Parking Eye, there is no evidence to show that the person they are persuing is the driver.  The burden of proof is on the operator to show that the person they are pursuing is in fact the driver.

Please view the Photographic Evidence taken by Parking Eye and you yourself will see, all the photograph shows, is the number plate of the leased vehicle due to the photograph being captured at night.  I therefore kindly ask you to cancel the PCN Charge.

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Yes it was Google - bummer, the Car Park is a couple hours away  :( Oh well, all a learning curve.

What is the procedure for POPLA now and the Code they have given me? I'm sorry to be asking you guys to drip feed me, this is all a new avenue for me!  :-\

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Just to note as well - the Parking Eye signage which I have checked, says 1hr 30min max stay,  on their PCN they have stated their max is 1hr, and they are trying to have the driver for 1hr and 33m.  So they are wrong with their timings regardless.

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