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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
« on: Yesterday at 09:33:27 pm »
If relevant, these are screenshots of options when appealing PCN online.






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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
« on: Yesterday at 09:26:40 pm »
Quote from: Hippocrates on January 10, 2026, 04:45:25 pm
Before you do anything please screenshot their website.

1. The PCN does not particularise which vehicles.

2. Similarly, neither do the images nor the video provided.

4. The PCN contains one invalid ground re the Traffic Order being invalid.

5. Your website contains 3 invalid grounds.


Thanks for the advice above, just to be clear, what part of the website am I screenshotting? The details of the PCN or a separate area of the Havering website covering details on this traffic order?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
« on: January 09, 2026, 08:46:01 pm »
Car is leased

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Havering PCN, 52M: Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle, South St RM1 / Eastern Rd RM1
« on: January 08, 2026, 03:03:11 pm »
Just got back from being away during the holidays to find this lovely late xmas present in the post.

<a href="https://ibb.co/zHj2McPC"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/R4Z6FnQt/PCN-Havering.jpg" alt="PCN Havering" border="0"></a>

I'm a little bit short on time with the response as I only just opened the letter today, but doing a quick search on this forum revealed there was an identical contravention on the same street just over a year ago that went to appeal and was overturned.
<a href="https://ibb.co/zT3XxZLf"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/pBHfwdsX/Media.jpg" alt="Media" border="0"></a>
Video shows little more that can be seen in this picture, a vehicle being driven down this road with no clear signage indicating that it shouldn't be there.

Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/2gti94Upp7ymq8Bz9

The other post I'm referencing is https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/havering-council-no-evidence-of-pcn-contravention-shown-in-video-footage/

Wondering if there's anything in particular that makes my case different to that one and I'm actually just in the wrong here and need to pay up.

Appreciate any advice on this.


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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN served beyond 28 days after contravention
« on: March 06, 2025, 11:03:52 am »
Yes, I think you were correct.

Response came in the post yesterday;

NOTICE OF REJECTION OF REPRESENTATIONS AGAINST PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE
- The London Local Authorities Acts 1990 - 2003
Verification code: 97C515
Contravention code: 33H
Using a route restricted to certain vehicles local buses and cycles only.

Thank you for your representations received on 25/02/2025 regarding the above Penalty Charge Notice (PCN). Following my investigation I have decided to formally reject your representations for the reasons detailed below.

The enforcement camera recorded your vehicle in Tottenham Court Road using a route restricted to certain vehicles. In this case, the route was restricted to local buses only Monday to Saturday 8am-7pm.

This footage has been reviewed by a Civil Enforcement Officer who has confirmed your vehicle was in contravention of the restriction.

You have stated that the PCN was issued outside of the 28 day period and therefore invalid, however, this does not provide an exemption or sufficient mitigation to cancel the PCN.

With reference to the points, you have raised concerning the time frame in which this PCN was issued, I can advise you that the original PCN was sent to the registered keeper who are a hire company on 17/01/25. On receipt of the PCN they had notified us that the vehicle was on hire to you at the time of the contravention, and we had transferred liability for the PCN to you on 13/02/25. A PCN was subsequently issued to you on 14/02/25 and I am satisfied that the PCN was correctly served in accordance with the London Local Authorities Acts 1990 - 2003.

With the exception of local buses, vehicles are not permitted to travel in the route restricted to certain vehicles. The CCTV footage shows your vehicle using a route restricted to local buses only and I am enforcing this PCN

I have included CCTV images below for your reference and enclosed a photograph of the signage at the location. You may also view video footage of the incident online at camden.gov.uk/pcn.

I'll bite the bullet and pay up this time. Just for my reference, is there anything I should have said/ done in my initial appeal differently to improve the chances of this being overturned?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN served beyond 28 days after contravention
« on: February 25, 2025, 02:18:44 pm »
Ok, I'm going to respond with the following today.

Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) Reference: CU6966

To Whom It May Concern,

I am writing to formally challenge Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) CU6966, which was issued in relation to an alleged contravention on 11/01/2025 at Tottenham Court Road W1 by the junction with Howland Street.

My appeal is on the grounds that the PCN was served outside the statutory 28-day period, making it invalid. Under Section 6, Subsection 1 of the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003, a PCN must be served within 28 days from the date of the alleged contravention unless an extension applies. In this case, I received the notice on 14/02/2025, which is beyond the permitted time limit.

Since the PCN has not been issued in accordance with the legal requirements, I respectfully request its immediate cancellation. Please confirm in writing that this matter has been resolved.

Thanks for the guidance, I'll keep you updated with the outcome.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN served beyond 28 days after contravention
« on: February 21, 2025, 05:39:47 pm »
It is… are they going to respond with the fact that this is the quickest they could have issued it?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / PCN served beyond 28 days after contravention
« on: February 21, 2025, 03:53:12 pm »
Council served me with the following PCN but the dates indicate something I remember reading on another forum about PCNs having to be issued within 28 days of the contravention, which this one does not comply with.

Date of contravention: 11/01/2025
Date of notice 14/02/2025 (how romantic..)

ChatGPT advises to respond with the following:

My appeal is based on the fact that the PCN was served outside the statutory 28-day period, as required under the applicable regulations. According to my understanding, a PCN must be issued and served within 28 days of the alleged contravention unless specific circumstances apply to extend this timeframe. In this case, I received the notice on [Date of PCN Receipt], which is beyond the 28-day period from the date of the alleged contravention.

As the PCN was not issued in accordance with the required time limits, I believe it is invalid, and I kindly request its cancellation. I would appreciate written confirmation of the cancellation at your earliest convenience.

Am I grossly mistaken or is there anything else I should be aware before firing off the appeal on these grounds?

Appreciate any advice.

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