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Are you a Scottish resident?
Yes, and this incident allegedly took place in Scotland too, unlike the other one.

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Hi again everyone. I have today received a communication from Direct Collection Bailiffs, who say their client is Parking Eye, in relation to an alleged parking event that took place in the car park of Asda's supermarket in Perth, Scotland, in July 2024.

This is not the same as the event that is the subject of this other thread, which allegedly occurred in England.

I was the keeper of the car on the date of the alleged incident. There has been, and there will be, no identification of the driver.

Notable features this time are as follows:

1. This refers to an "unpaid parking charge", but it is the first communication I have received about this - some 15 months after the alleged parking incident. As you can see, they include the BPA logo on their communication, so presumably they are obliged to play by BPA rules. What's the time limit? Surely it's less than 15 months?

2. They clearly say on their document that liability in Scotland falls on the driver. It's interesting that they haven't even asked me whether I know who the driver was, yet they are still threatening to "recommend" to their client the "commencement of legal action" against me.

3. I would be interested to know when they got my name and address as keeper, and whether they got it from the DVLA or from somewhere else.

4. Note the absence of

a. any reference to the alleged time of the incident;
b. any reference to what the contravention allegedly was, other than that it allegedly involved "remaining";
c. photographs.




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Did you ever get a response to the POPLA complaint?

Just continue to ignore PE. Not with the effort to be honest.
No. The complaint to the DVLA is also outstanding. I did get an email from the DVLA saying they were sorry they hadn't met their deadline and they'd either respond within two further weeks or else notify of me of a revised target date, but that was the last I heard from them.

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The latest communication from Parking Eye is attached.

One interesting thing is that they say a "charge reflecting the cost to Parkingeye may apply for payments made via credit/debit card". I thought companies weren't allowed to apply such a surcharge, because they'd be in breach of a) their contract with Visa or Mastercard and b) the Consumer Rights (Payment Surcharges) Regulations 2012, as amended by Schedule 8 of the Payment Services Regulations 2017. (This latter info was the result of two minutes' lookup on the internet and therefore may not be accurate.)




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I have now received the POPLA decision, made by Lyndsey Howgate. It's mostly spew, in terms of content and organisation as well as spelling and grammar, but the key bit is this:

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"I am aware The Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012 is a law that allows parking operators to transfer the liability to the registered keeper in the event that the driver or hirer is not identified. Parking operators have to follow certain rules including warning the registered keeper that they will be liable if the parking operator is not provided with the name and address of the driver. In this case, the PCN in question has the necessary information and the parking operator has therefore successfully transferred the liability onto the registered keeper due to the drivers details not being supplied. The appellant states the parking operators action is incorrect due to PoFA 2012 not being applicable in Scotland. Whilst I acknowledge the appellants statement and agree, it is important to point out that it is the area in which the PCN is issued, and not where a registered keeper lives. Therefore, as the PCN was issued for a car park in England, I am satisfied that PoFA 2012 would be applicable and the parking operator was correct when it transferred liability of the PCN to the Registered Keeper and this is compliant with PoFA."


The whole thing:


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POPLA assessment and decision

01/09/2025
Verification Code

[***]
Decision
Unsuccessful

Assessor Name
Lyndsey Howgate

Assessor summary of operator case

The operator has issued the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) due to remaining on the car park for longer than the permitted free stay.

Assessor summary of your case

The appellant has provided a detailed account surrounding the parking event in question. For the purpose of my report, I have summarised the grounds raised into the points below •The appellant advises they are the registered keeper of the vehicle, live in Scotland and there has been no identification of the driver. PoFA makes no provision for transfer of liability to a registered keeper in Scotland, and therefore liability may not be transferred to them. •The appellant advises they submitted an appeal to the parking operator on the 19 February 2025, and the parking operator broke BPA Code of Practice section 8.4.1 because it did not conclude a response to their appeal within 28 days, nor, having harassed them to provide information that I told them unequivocally in their appeal that they would not obtain. The appellant advises they only received a response from the parking operator 121 days after their initial appeal had been raised. After reviewing the operator’s evidence, the appellant has expanded on their grounds of appeal. •The appellant states that the parking operator has always identified itself to them as "Parking Eye Ltd", not under the name "Parking Eye Ltd including Car Parking Partnership (CPP) - EW". Its use of two different names is something they urge to be investigated. •The appellant states the evidence provided by the parking operator is not relevant. •The appellant states that they consider the PCN to be void, and look forward to receiving confirmation of POPLA's agreement to this effect. All of the above has been considered in making my determination.

Assessor supporting rational for decision

The appellant has identified as the keeper of the vehicle and therefore I will refer to them as the appellant throughout my report. When assessing an appeal POPLA considers if the operator has issued the parking charge notice correctly and if the driver has complied with the terms and conditions for the use of the car park. The appellant advises they are the registered keeper of the vehicle, live in Scotland and there has been no identification of the driver. PoFA makes no provision for transfer of liability to a registered keeper in Scotland, and therefore liability may not be transferred to them. I am aware The Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012 is a law that allows parking operators to transfer the liability to the registered keeper in the event that the driver or hirer is not identified. Parking operators have to follow certain rules including warning the registered keeper that they will be liable if the parking operator is not provided with the name and address of the driver. In this case, the PCN in question has the necessary information and the parking operator has therefore successfully transferred the liability onto the registered keeper due to the drivers details not being supplied. The appellant states the parking operators action is incorrect due to PoFA 2012 not being applicable in Scotland. Whilst I acknowledge the appellants statement and agree, it is important to point out that it is the area in which the PCN is issued, and not where a registered keeper lives. Therefore, as the PCN was issued for a car park in England, I am satisfied that PoFA 2012 would be applicable and the parking operator was correct when it transferred liability of the PCN to the Registered Keeper and this is compliant with PoFA. The parking operator has provided a copy of the car park site map indicating where signage is located within the car park and time date stamped photographs of the signage within the car park which advises 2 hours free parking, parking tariffs apply after 2 hours free parking, tariffs available, payment methods available and failure to comply will result in a £100 PCN being issued. I am aware that the car park where the vehicle entered and exited is monitored by an Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) system. All accessible entry and exit points in this area have a ANPR camera in place which takes an infrared image of a vehicle registration, as the vehicle passes by. The system then identifies the vehicle registration mark (VRM) from these images, after which the total time the vehicle remained on site is calculated, recorded and compared with any parking time purchased/the advertised terms and conditions. The parking operator has supplied images obtained from the ANPR camera that shows the vehicle entering the car park on the 2 February 2025 at [***] and exited at [***] the same day (2 hours and [***] minutes). The appellant advises that they submitted an appeal to the parking operator on the 19 February 2025, and the parking operator broke BPA Code of Practice section 8.4.1 because it did not conclude a response to their appeal within 28 days, nor, having harassed them to provide information that I told them unequivocally in their appeal that they would not obtain. The appellant states that the parking operator has always identified itself to them as "Parking Eye Ltd", not under the name "Parking Eye Ltd including Car Parking Partnership (CPP) - EW". Its use of two different names is something they urge to be investigated. This sectors Code of Practice which was jointly created by the British Parking Association (BPA) and the International Parking Community (IPC). It is largely based on the Government’s Private Parking Code of Practice, which was published in February 2022, and subsequently withdrawn in June 2022. The new Code came into force on the 1 October 2024. The Private Parking Sector Single Code of Practice (The Code) sets the standards its parking operators need to comply with. I acknowledge the appellants grounds of appeal, however POPLA's role is to determine if a PCN has been issued correctly due to any breach in the terms and conditions of use of a car park and is unable to comment on how a parking operator has handled an appeal. If the appellant wishes to explore this aspect of their appeal further, direct contact to the parking operator should be made or they may wish to raise this directly with the BPA. The appellant states the evidence provided by the parking operator is not relevant. The appellant states that they consider the PCN to be void, and look forward to receiving confirmation of POPLA's agreement to this effect. I have reviewed the photographs of the signage within the car park, where it is located within the car park and also the whitelist provided that the parking operator that confirms that no payment was received for the duration that the vehicle remained in situ on the car park on the day the PCN was issued (after the free 2 hour duration had expired). I am satisfied that this validates the terms and conditions of use of the car park where breached. As the appellants appeal has been refused, any further discussions regarding payment of the PCN should be made directly to the parking operator. POPLA’s role is to assess if the operator has issued the charge in accordance with the conditions of the contract. As the terms and conditions of the car park have not been met, due to remaining on the car park for longer than the permitted free stay, I conclude that the operator has issued the parking charge correctly, and the appeal is refused.

I also received an email from Parking Eye less than one hour after the email from POPLA. This stated

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Dear Sir/Madam,

We are writing to inform you that we are now in receipt of the decision from POPLA concerning your recent appeal.

This notification confirms that the appeal has been refused and the full Parking Charge amount is now due to the Operator.

I replied by email to Philip Boynes, Parking Eye's CEO:

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From: [***]
To: philip.boynes@parkingeye.co.uk
Subject: order to desist

Dear Mr Boynes,

The legal position remains exactly the same as it was in February. You have no right to transfer liability to keeper in Scotland.

This is a formal order to desist from demanding money from me with menaces, and formal notice that in the event that you continue to do so you may face prosecution under the Protection  from Harassment Act 1997.

Yours sincerely,
[***]




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I have to be really quick here. Sorry but very little time! This is just to keep you posted on the appeal to POPLA. I received a note from them saying the operator has responded. The response was in the form of a 51-page document that contains nothing relevant to the grounds of my appeal as far as I can see.

So I have replied to POPLA as follows:

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Dear POPLA Team,

Let me begin by noting that the operator has always identified itself to me as "Parking Eye Ltd", not under the name "Parking Eye Ltd including Car Parking Partnership (CPP) - EW". Its use of two different names is something I urge you to investigate.

As far as the 51-page document that they have submitted to you entitled "OP Case Summary" is concerned, it contains in my estimation absolutely nothing whatsoever that is relevant

1) to the grounds stated in the appeal that I filed with them,

2) to the fact that they failed to answer the said appeal until four months later (three months after the BPA deadline) and have never responded to it substantively, or

3) to the grounds stated in my appeal to you, which are covered under points 1) and 2).

The points of the appeal I submitted to you continue to stand, and they have not been challenged substantively by Parking Eye Ltd. It is presumably not your role to make their case for them, and since they haven't made a substantive response to my appeal I trust you will acknowledge that they haven't made one and treat their baseless attempt to contest my appeal in the way it patently obviously deserves.

I consider the PCN to be void, and I look forward to hearing confirmation of your agreement to this effect. Whether or not I receive such confirmation, I shall continue to regard the PCN as void and I shall continue to regard this operator's demand that I pay them some money to be without good cause, unenforceable, and such that it will constitute a further case of harassment if they repeat it.

Yours sincerely,

[***]


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I have now appealed to POPLA, mainly because it didn't take long to do so.

In the meantime, I put in a data subject access request to BPA for copies of correspondence between themselves and Parking Eye, and it turns out that Gemma Dorans of the BPA when she wrote to PE called me "the motorist". So she is jumping to conclusions.

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Many thanks for all this! I am still thinking about whether to initiate proceedings in Scotland.

In the meantime, should I file with POPLA? I would just say

1. Parking Eye broke BPA Code of Practice section 8.4.1 because they did not conclude a response to my appeal within 28 days, nor, having harassed me to provide information that I told them they would not obtain (and I have not claimed to possess) did they confirm a timeframe for concluding it. All they did in the way of supposedly concluding a response was to tell me 121 days after they received my appeal that they had declined it, after they were chivvied by the BPA. A response that is out of time (issued a full three months after the 28-day deadline) cannot be considered to be a response.

2. The grounds of appeal are in any case valid because POFA makes no provision for transfer of liability to a registered keeper in Scotland.

3. (Possibly worth adding) PE have further breached BPA COP section 11 by refusing to process my complaints, using as their excuse the fact that I did not signal my agreement with their privacy policy, which I am not obliged to do, and further given that keeper non-agreement with operator privacy policy is not stated in the BPA COP as a reason for operator refusal to process complaints.

?

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And one last one for today to Philip Boynes, CEO of Parking Eye ( philip.boynes@parkingeye.co.uk ) :

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Dear Mr Boynes,

I'm still waiting for your confirmation that you've cancelled the invoice you sent me, which you pompously described as a "charge notice".

Whether you try to locate the driver of the vehicle is up to you. Keeper liability doesn't apply in Scotland (where you know I am based), and in any case you failed to issue a substantive response to my appeal within the BPA-mandated 28 days, only sending me an email (which didn't even refer to my grounds of appeal) after 121 days, shortly after the BPA contacted you because I required them to.

You certainly don't have a valid claim on me for anything - and it's in your interests to recognise this.

[***]

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Oh dear, there is more... I got this from Sara Roberts, "Head of Parking on Private Land" at the BPA:


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Dear [***]

May I open by introducing myself. I am the Head of Parking on Private Land at the BPA .  Your email to Andrew Pester and the associated email trail has been shared with me to review and provide a response to.

At the BPA we investigate breaches of our Code of Practice when there is evidence. We cannot handle individual ticket disputes or appeals and therefore cannot compel a member to cancel a charge.

We want to let you know that:

    We have thoroughly investigated your complaint.
    The decision we made is appropriate.
    Our communications with you have met our standards.
    You have not provided any new information that changes our view.

We believe we have answered all your questions.  In your case an appeal response was not issued and to correct the error, Parking Eye have confirmed the response will be sent out today via email.  We believe this to be appropriate rectification.

Since we have explained our position several times and through a number of emails, we consider your correspondence unreasonable. We will not respond further on this matter. Your complaint is now closed.

You can review our policy on unreasonable complaints on Here

We are sorry we cannot help you further.

Sara

Sara Roberts

Head of Parking on Private Land

British Parking Association

Web:  www.britishparking.co.uk

I replied as follows:


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Dear Ms Roberts,

Thank you for your email, which I assume you are writing on behalf of Mr Pester.

Nobody was asking you to handle an individual ticket dispute or appeal, or to compel a member to cancel a charge.

Please do not patronise me by saying that you "want" to "let me know" that your decision is "appropriate" - an adjective that in this case is practically free of meaning.

Please do not tell me that you have explained things several times as if I am the one with comprehension problems.

Please do not tell me that you feel I have been unreasonable. It is not every day that I am told I am unreasonable by a head of department employed by a cartel of thugs.

The fact is that your own rules say that a member, if they are to issue a substantive response to an appeal, must do so within 28 days. The information is that this member didn't. That means that anything they do after the 28 days is not the issuing of a substantive response. That's not "information". It's logic. And believe me, it will stand up in court. Parking Eye only sent me today's email 121 days after they received my appeal, after you reminded them of their breach. Their email is not a response to my appeal in the formal sense. (For your information, nor does it even refer to the grounds of my appeal.)

That you have not answered all my questions is verifiable. Do not tell me black is white.

This matter is likely to continue, with further damage to the BPA's reputation, if the "PCN" with my name on it is considered still to be valid, despite a) the non-applicability of keeper liability in Scotland and b) the admitted breach of your rules which by common practice and custom would determine the automatic upholding of my appeal.

Hopefully I will not need to explain these points to you again.

Yours sincerely,

[***]

Cc: Andrew Pester

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Lazy and stupid (but cocky with it) G Dorans of the BPA keeps banging her head against the wall. I received this as her latest email:

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Dear [***]

Thank you for your email.

Our role is to investigate breaches of our Code of Practice where evidence can be supplied and to rectify any identified breaches. On this occasion, a breach of the Code was identified, and we believe appropriate rectification occurred.

Please note we are not obliged to continue to correspond about issues we have already addressed.

If we receive further correspondence of this nature, we will deem it as unreasonable and/or vexatious and therefore we will invoke our unreasonable complaints and vexatious communications policy.  Please find below a link to the policy for your information:

UnreasonableComplaintsandVexatiousCommunicationsPolicyMarch2025.pdf

Kind regards

Gemma Dorans

AOS Investigations Team

I am not bothering communicating with her any more. I have instead emailed Philip Boynes and Dave Smith as follows:


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Dear Mr Boynes,

It seems you have a problem with this employee. I will not stand for being told black is white.

Information regarding this whole matter is being circulated.

I await your conformation that you have advised your member to cancel this "parking charge notice".

Sincerely

[***]

Okay, so I misspelled "confirmation" as "conformation", but I'm angry!

Edit: I was so angry that I confused the BPA with Parking Eye and sent that email to Philip Boynes of Parking Eye rather than to Andrew Pester of the BPA. I have now sent it to Pester and taken the opportunity to correct my typo!  :)

I've also sent this to Boynes and Smith:


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Dear Mr Boynes  (Cc: Dave Smith),

The email that I sent to you at 1.01pm today was misaddressed and I meant to send it (and address it) to somebody else. My apologies for this error.

Nonetheless, you are past the 1pm deadline and I have not heard from you that you have cancelled your "parking charge notice" that you issued in February with my name on it, against which I filed an appeal to which you failed to issue a substantive response within the BPA-mandated 28 days.

Liability is not transferable to a registered keeper outside the English jurisdiction, nor in any case is the PCN still extant given that you failed to respond to the appeal. Whether you try to find the driver is up to you, but the PCN issued to me as registered keeper at the time is certainly void.

Because you missed the deadline, I am now circulating information including correspondence with yourselves.

I realise your reputation is extremely poor, but in the interests of protecting it from further free fall into the gutter, you may like to confirm that you have cancelled your "notice" even at this tardy stage. At the present point I have not started proceedings for harassment but reserve the right to do so.

Yours sincerely,

[***]
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I have filed a data subject access request with the BPA as follows:

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(To:  contactdpo@britishparking.co.uk    )

Dear Sirs,

Kindly send me all personal data concerning myself that you hold in connection with matters concerning PCN [***], which was issued to me with my name on it by your member Parking Eye. For the avoidance of doubt, this data includes all correspondence that has passed concerning this PCN or any matters arising from it between the BPA and Parking Eye, including (inter alia) all items sent by or to your employee Ms Gemma Dorans.

Please acknowledge receipt of this request.

Name: [***]
Address: [***]
Registered keeper of vehicle reg. [***] throughout February 2025

I look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely,

[***]

***

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I have received a further email from G Dorans of the BPA:


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Dear [***],

Thank you for your email, the contents in which have been noted.

Please be advised when a breach of the Code occurs, we always look at what rectification can occur to correct the mistake.  In your case an appeal response was not issued and to correct the error, Parking Eye have confirmed the response will be sent out today via email.

We believe this to be appropriate rectification.  Please note we do not become involved with individual ticket disputes and therefore cannot compel a member to cancel a charge.  The appeals process is there for that.   Therefore, if your appeal is rejected, you will be provided with details on how to appeal to POPLA – the independent appeals service.  If you wish to contest the charge further, we suggest you follow the POPLA process.

If you wish to correspond with Parking Eye regarding your position, you will need to liaise with them directly.

Please note our complaints policy below:

BPAComplaintsPolicyandProcedureV3-GD.pdf

I would like to draw your attention to the below contained within our complaints policy:

Complaints will only be accepted regarding the behaviour of an employee. Any concerns related to our decisions made under the Code of Practice will not be reviewed.

The BPA maintains the authority to decline an escalation if it does not meet the criteria for a complaint.

As we believe the Operator has acted appropriately following the Code breach, the case will remain closed, and we will be unable to enter into further correspondence with you.  Any correspondence received will be logged but not responded to.

Kind regards

Gemma Dorans

AOS Investigations Team

I have replied as follows, Cc:ing Andrew Pester (BPA CEO) and Dave Smith (BPA head of communications):


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Dear Ms Dorans,

Did you pass my email to your line manager as requested?

Your association has rules, which it should enforce. You told me unequivocally and in writing that your member had 28 days to respond substantively to an appeal. It did not do so. The cut-and-pasted email that it sent me today cannot possibly be a response, because it is out of time. (For your information, it does not even address the grounds of my appeal and it makes the elementary legal error of assuming I am under an obligation to prove something.)

Kindly accept the point that a response sent after 28 days is out of time, or ask your line manager to accept this point. This is what it means to say that an operator has 28 days to respond.

It is obviously within the power and authority of the BPA to tell one of its members that it will not support them any further in the event that they do not cancel this PCN. Kindly do this. It would simply not be true to say that you can't do this. You can do it.

I am Cc: ing this to Andrew Pester and Dave Smith. I am still expecting to hear by 1pm that the PCN  has been cancelled. Neither the BPA nor Parking Eye have much of a reputation, but what reputation they do possess can fall further.

Yours sincerely,

[***]

Cc: Andrew Pester (andrew.p@britishparking.co.uk), Dave Smith (media@britishparking.co.uk)

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Did you see the bits I added containing emails to D Smith at the BPA and P Boynes at Parking Eye?

I have now received an email from Parking Eye. It is quite amazing.

They say "we are not in receipt of sufficient evidence to confirm that the terms and conditions were not breached", as if I am under an obligation to prove something (I'm not), and as if the basis of my appeal was that a car park operator's terms and conditions weren't breached! (It wasn't.)

Here's what they say, writing from a "no reply" address ( no-reply@parkingeye.net ).

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Reference: Parking Charge Notice - [***]
POPLA Ref: [***]

Dear Sir / Madam,

Thank you for your appeal in relation to the Parking Charge incurred on 02 February 2025
at [***], at Welcome Break Charnock Richard-Chorley (South) car park.

We have reviewed the details outlined in your appeal, but we are not in receipt of
sufficient evidence to confirm that the terms and conditions were not breached. Our
records confirm that no parking was purchased on the date of the parking event, despite
there being payment methods available.

We are writing to advise you that your recent appeal has been unsuccessful and that you
have now reached the end of our internal appeals procedure.

If you wish to have your case independently assessed, please be advised, there is an
independent appeals service (POPLA) which is available to motorists who have had an
appeal rejected by a British Parking Association Approved Operator. Contact information
and further information can be found enclosed. See also www.popla.co.uk

By law we are also required to inform you that Ombudsman Services (www.ombudsman-
services.org/) provides an alternative dispute resolution service that would be competent
to deal with your appeal. However, we have not chosen to participate in their alternative
dispute resolution service. As such should you wish to appeal then you must do so to
POPLA, as explained above.

Please note, if the Parking Charge was issued in Scotland/Northern Ireland, only the
driver can appeal to POPLA (Parking on Private Land Appeals).

As a gesture of goodwill, we have extended the discount period for a further 14 days from
the date of this correspondence. If you appeal to POPLA, you will not be able to pay the
discounted amount in settlement of the Parking Charge, and the full value of the charge
will be outstanding. In addition, if your appeal to POPLA is unsuccessful, you will no
longer be able to pay the discounted amount and the full value of the charge will be due.

A payment can be made by telephoning 0330 555 4444, by visiting
www.parkingeye.co.uk/payments or alternatively by posting a cheque/postal order to
Parkingeye Ltd, PO Box 117, Blyth, NE24 9EJ. Please ensure you write your reference
number on the reverse of any cheque/postal order so the payment can be allocated.

If you have received this correspondence via email, please allow 24 hours for our
systems to reflect the discounted value before making a payment via our automated
payment line or website.

Yours faithfully,

Parkingeye Team

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I have replied to P Boynes:

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Dear Mr Boynes,

I have received a further email from your company today. (See below, and attachment.) It was sent from a "no reply" address, so I am replying to you directly.

It is not a response to my appeal, because

1. Under BPA rules such responses must be issued within 28 days.

2. Whoever wrote it seems to think my appeal was on the grounds that a car park operator's terms and conditions weren't breached. It wasn't.

3. Whoever wrote it seems to think I am under some kind of obligation to prove something, insofar as they write that "we are not in receipt of sufficient evidence to confirm that the terms and conditions were not breached". I am not under any obligation to prove anything.

Please confirm by 1pm that the PCN with my name on it is void. If you wish to try to find the driver, you can do so - but as I have indicated several times, do not expect any assistance from me.

Yours sincerely,

[***]

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Email from the BPA today, 19 June 2025:

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Dear [***],

I have investigated your complaint with the Operator and can advise as follows.

The Operator has confirmed that the signage at the Welcome Break confirms tariffs apply after 2 hours.  The vehicle remained within the car park for 2 hours and 34 minutes and Parking Eye have no record of a parking period being purchased.

Parking Eye have confirmed an appeal was submitted by the registered keeper stating that the driver will not be identified.  An appeal response was issued to you asking for confirmation of the driver which Parking Eye are entitled to do.  Unfortunately, no details of the driver were received.  Usually if no response is received to their request for further information, a formal response is sent regardless.  On this occasion this did not happen.  To rectify the matter a formal response will be sent to your appeal today via email and further investigations will take place to ascertain why this did not happen on this occasion.

Parking Eye have also confirmed that 5 separate submissions were received through the complaints process dated 6 March, 24 March, 29 March, 5 April and 17 April all raising the same grounds of appeal and confirming you did not agree to Parking Eye’s privacy policy.  A response was sent to you to confirm that as you did not agree to the privacy policy, they were unable to process your complaint in line with their obligations under GDPR.

We believe the appropriate rectification has occurred regarding your appeal response being issued today and therefore will close the case. 

Kind regards

Gemma Dorans

AOS Investigations Team


My reply:

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Dear Ms Dorans,

Please forward this reply to your line manager.

You stated unambiguously that your members have 28 days to respond substantively to an appeal. They did not respond to my appeal within this period, and therefore they  may not do so afterwards. Any communication they send me will not be a substantive response to my appeal because a substantive response must be issued within 28 days.

Your use of the words "unfortunately" and "on this occasion" suggest that you are taking the mickey. It does not matter what you consider to be unfortunate, and it is obviously only this member's failure to respond to this appeal that we are talking about, not any other "occasions" on which they may or may not have done something else.

Complaints are separate from appeals and follow separate rules, so what you say about complaint handling is irrelevant to the matter of your member's failure to issue a substantive response to my appeal.

Their failure to respond is not a matter that can be subject to "rectification" several months later.

I consider the PCN to be void. It is obvious that liability may not be transferred to a keeper resident in Scotland. It is also obvious that I do not have any obligation to agree to your member's "privacy policy" (which the law mandates to protect me, not to protect a gang of car park scammers who are in the business of demanding money with menaces), so this correspondence is now closed.

You are hereby notified that I will not accept any further correspondence from your member on any matter, and any communication they send me will be considered harassment. Since you clearly speak on their behalf by telling me what they will do later today, I am sending this notice to you so that you can forward it to them. If you send correspondence on their behalf, you can also receive it on their behalf. Let me spell it out: if Parking Eye contact me again in any matter, their action will be considered to be harassment under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997.

Kindly acknowledge receipt of this email and confirm that you have forwarded it to your line manager.

Yours sincerely,

[***]

And I have also written to Dave Smith ( media@britishparking.co.uk ), Head of Communications at the BPA, enclosing a copy of my reply to Ms Dorans and with a cover note saying:

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[***]

Attn: Dave Smith, Head of Communications, British Parking Association

Dave,

Any comments on this matter before I circulate it? I consider the PCN to be void for reasons stated. Might be useful reputation-wise if you can confirm agreement from your end. Just to give you the heads up.

Best to let me know by 1pm today if you can.

Regards,

[***]

And I have also emailed Philip Boynes, managing director of Parking Eye ( philip.boynes@parkingeye.co.uk ) as follows:

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Dear Mr Boynes,

This is just to confirm that

1. Your PCN [***] is considered fully void because you failed to respond substantively to my appeal within the period of 28 days set down by the BPA and because no substantive response is possible because you are out of time.

2. There will be no identification of the driver.

3. There is no lawful basis for transferring liability to a keeper resident in Scotland.

4. I am circulating information about your actions.

5. I expect confirmation by 1pm today that you agree that the PCN is void.

Yours sincerely,

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