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Update

Spoke to TEC today.

They confirmed the PCN was registered with TEC on 7 October 2025 and that Barking & Dagenham requested authority to enforce on 19 November 2025.

TEC advised they cannot confirm whether the Order for Recovery was actually served, and have now emailed me PE2 and PE3 forms so I can submit a statutory declaration on the basis that the Order for Recovery was not received.

I haven’t submitted the forms yet and ill try get them done today asap!

Update:

I’ve paid CDER £280 to prevent enforcement escalation

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I’ve now emailed Barking & Dagenham asking when (if at all) an Order for Recovery was issued, the address it was sent to, and when the debt was registered with TEC.

I’ve also emailed TEC asking them to confirm whether the PCN was registered and whether an Order for Recovery was authorised/issued.

TEC were closed when I emailed, so I will call them tomorrow to confirm by phone.

For clarity: my address is correct, I haven’t moved, and I did not receive an Enforcement Notice, Notice of Rejection, Charge Certificate or Order for Recovery. The CDER letters are the first indication enforcement had progressed.

Will update once I have responses.

Thanks

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Thanks all for responding — here are the answers to your questions:

✔ Address on the PCN was correct
✔ I have not moved
✔ No post issues that I’m aware of

To confirm clearly — the ONLY documents I received before the CDER enforcement letters were:

1️⃣ The original PCN
2️⃣ The council’s rejection letter to my informal challenge
(Nothing else at all)

I definitely did not receive:

Enforcement Notice

Notice of Rejection of formal reps

Charge Certificate

Order for Recovery
(or any PE2/PE3 paperwork)


So the CDER enforcement letters were the very first indication that the penalty had moved to enforcement.

Happy to contact TEC and Barking & Dagenham as advised — please can you confirm the exact wording I should use when calling TEC?

And as for bailiffs — should I be paying the £280 now to stop any visit while the PE2/PE3 process takes place?

Thanks again everyone — appreciate your help while I try to untangle this mess!

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Hi all,

I’ve just received a mediation appointment confirmation email from the Small Claims Mediation Service for my claim.

The appointment is scheduled for:

Date: 06/02/2026

Time Slot: 09:30 – 12:30

Format: Telephone mediation (mediator will call from a withheld number)

They’ve asked me to reply with my full name and the best number to contact me on during the appointment slot. I will proceed with these instructions.

Here is the link to the letter received https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LHXvttLnvKQmVch886eEFAj_LM0rjXr0/view?usp=sharing

Thanks again for all your guidance so far — I really appreciate the help.

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Hi all, quick update on my situation:

Since my last post on 17 June 2025, I hadn’t received anything further from Barking & Dagenham or TEC. No Order for Recovery, no PE3/TE9 form — nothing.

However, this week I have suddenly received enforcement letters from CDER Group:

1️⃣ Notice of Enforcement
 • Dated 24/11/2025
 • Debt: £205
 • Compliance fee: £75
 • Total: £280

2️⃣ Notice of Enforcement Reminder
 • Dated 03/12/2025
 • Total still £280

These are the first things I’ve received since that “Outstanding Payment Reminder” back in June.

The enforcement letters have just appeared now with bailiff action threatened.

Please could someone advise what my next step should be? Do I now need to apply to TEC for a statutory declaration (TE9) on the basis that the Enforcement Notice / OfR were not received?

Thanks again for helping me through this — much appreciated.

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Perfect thanks for everyone's time I have now sent off my n180 following your instructions. I shall await mediation appointment and follow up with everyone. I'll attempt to have a text written transcript of the call for all future cases.

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Thanks for all your help and support so I have followed instructions to send it via online form and I've just one question shall I

A. Stick to the original D1 answer -

I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions. Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question.

or

B. Use my amended version not that I know better just including more information -

I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person to ensure a fair and accurate examination of the facts. My vehicle was broken down at the time of the alleged contravention, which was beyond my control.

Given that the Claimant is a commercial firm that routinely submits template parking case paperwork, there is a risk that important details specific to this case may be missing or unclear. Allowing me to question the Claimant in person will enable the court to clarify any omissions or inaccuracies, confirm the evidence, and ensure that the decision is based on a complete and truthful account of the circumstances.

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Hi ive filled out the N180 form can someone tell me if im missing anything or is this now fine to send to the court and g24 ltd

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sKC3xqLb7iwwb7_Ti8z-2zOEoelx7ED0/view?usp=drivesdk

Link above

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Thanks for the detailed guidance — really helpful.

Just to confirm, I haven’t actually received anything from the Civil National Business Centre yet. The only N180 I’ve got is the Claimant’s draft version that DCB Legal emailed to me.

Should I wait until the court sends me my official N180 (or it shows as “sent” on MCOL) before I complete and submit my own version?

I just want to be sure I don’t send it prematurely.

thanks

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Good morning everyone,

I’ve now received an email from DCB Legal (bulklitigation@dcblegal.co.uk) following the submission of my defence. Here’s what they’ve said:

“Having reviewed the content of your defence, we write to inform you that our client intends to proceed with the claim.

In due course, the Court will direct both parties to each file a directions questionnaire. In preparation for that, please find attached a copy of the Claimant's, which we confirm has been filed with the Court.

Without prejudice to the above, in order to assist the Court in achieving its overriding objective, our client may be prepared to settle this case - in the event you wish to discuss settlement, please call us on 0203 434 0433 within 7 days and make immediate reference to this correspondence.

If you have provided an email address within your Defence, we intend to use it for service of documents (usually in PDF format) pursuant to PD 6A (4.1)(2)(c). Please advise if there are any limitations to this.”

They’ve also attached a draft N180 Directions Questionnaire (Small Claims Track), which they say has already been filed with the court.

A few questions for guidance:

Should I be filling out my own N180 form now, or wait until I receive the official one from the court?

Is it normal for DCB Legal to send their copy directly like this before the court’s instructions arrive?

Should I respond to their “settlement offer” or just ignore that part completely?

Finally, should I reply to confirm my email address can be used for future correspondence, or stay silent?

I haven’t responded to them yet — just wanted to check with you all before taking any action.

Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.

Here's the link to Google Drive as this post is no longer allowing me to upload files or images

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XP0QFXld_Eikd185aPLFVhI0pBmzXN3F?usp=sharing

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I have found it seconds after posting that sorry for the troubles and have now submitted the defence as instructed:
Claim History
A claim was issued against you on 12/09/2025

Your defence was submitted on 01/10/2025 at 12:41:26

Your defence was received on 01/10/2025 at 14:05:10

Here is the link for anyone that needs it in future: https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/

Defence and Counterclaim
Claim number
ClaimantG24 Limited
Defendant
 
How much of the claim do you dispute?
I dispute the full amount claimed as shown on the claim form.
 
Do you dispute this claim because you have already paid it?
No, for other reasons.
 
Defence
1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant
asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no
debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately
disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim
(PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made
against the Defendant such that the PoC do not adequately comply
with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the
PoC in accordance with PD 16, para 7.3(1);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or
clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or
contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why
the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or
contracts);

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly
where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach
occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked
before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is
calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest,
damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the
parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is
sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant
cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant submits that courts have previously struck out
materially similar claims of their own initiative for failure to
adequately comply with CPR 16.4, particularly where the
Particulars of Claim failed to specify the contractual terms
relied upon or explain the alleged breach with sufficient clarity.

5. In comparable cases involving modest sums, judges have found
that requiring further case management steps would be
disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective.
Accordingly, strike-out was deemed appropriate. The Defendant
submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites
the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim
due to the Claimant’s failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4,
rather than permitting an amendment. The Defendant proposes that
the following Order be made:

Draft Order:

Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the particulars of
claim and the defence.

AND the court being of the view that the particulars of claim do
not adequately comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) because: (a) they do
not set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the
terms and conditions of the contract which is (or are) relied on;
and (b) they do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons)
why the claimant asserts that the defendant was in breach of
contract.

AND the claimant could have complied with CPR 16.4(1)(a) had it
served separate detailed particulars of claim, as it could have
done pursuant to PD 7C, para 5.2, but chose not to do so.

AND upon the Court determining, having regard to the overriding
objective (CPR 1.1), that it would be disproportionate to direct
further pleadings or to allot any further share of the Court’s
resources to this claim (for example by ordering further
particulars of claim and a further defence, with consequent case
management).

ORDER:

1. The claim is struck out.

2. Permission to either party to apply to set aside, vary or stay
this order by application on notice, which must be filed at this
Court not more than 7 days after service of this order, failing
which no such application may be made.
 
Signed
I am the Defendant - I believe that the facts stated in this form are true

 
Address to which notices about this claim can be sent to you

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I've checked everywhere but I don't see an option for logging into MCOL or having a previous account. Can anyone point me to a link that I can do this?

thanks

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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1plvqUbJMNqVFCVOOW6qQQeAKM4nzzYYz

I’ve now uploaded the missing sheet as well, which shows Sarah Ensall.

The only details I’ve removed from the documents are my name and address – everything else is exactly as received.

This is the first time I’ve had to deal with a County Court Claim Form, and I’m not sure where to begin with the process. Could anyone guide me on the right steps to take when filling it out and responding?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Hi everyone,

I’ve now received an official County Court Claim Form from the Civil National Business Centre (Northampton) regarding the G24 parking charge. issued on 12 September 2025. The particulars state it relates to parking in a disabled bay without displaying a valid badge. The total amount claimed is £264.92 (including fees and legal costs).

The website wouldn't allow me to insert any images or documents not sure why but there isnt a button so I have uploaded them to google and made the link available to everyone.

please see attachment

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1plvqUbJMNqVFCVOOW6qQQeAKM4nzzYYz?usp=sharing


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