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Private parking tickets / Re: Parkingeye Parking Charge Halifax
« on: September 01, 2025, 04:05:30 pm »
Thank you so much for your help, it looks like Parkingeye ran with their tails...., they withdrew my POPLA appeal, see email from POPLA:

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The operator has contacted us and told us that they have withdrawn your appeal.
If you have already paid your parking charge, this is the reason your appeal will have been withdrawn. Unfortunately, you cannot pay your parking charge and appeal, which means that POPLA’s involvement in your appeal has ended. You will not be able to request a refund of the amount paid in order to resubmit your appeal to us.
If you have not paid your parking charge, the operator has reviewed your appeal and chosen to cancel the parking charge. As the operator has withdrawn your appeal, POPLA’s involvement has now ended and you do not need to take any further action.
Kind regards
POPLA Team

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Private parking tickets / Re: Parkingeye Parking Charge Halifax
« on: August 08, 2025, 12:22:56 am »
Thank you so much for this, I guess my inexperience and lack of knowledge shone through in my attempt!

I will remove the lines ref ANPR as I don't believe there are ANPR cameras on site and if they were there are no ANPR photographs showing the vehicle entering and exiting the car park, they may have them in the NtK but I have not seen or received this, I can't even find the Ntk on their website, I think they usually show this there?

The only two photos in the PCN reminder are as shared above, and these are the only two shown on their website under 'view photographic evidence', they seem to be captured by one of their lackeys 26 minutes apart both of the rear of the vehicle, but very grainy and no evidence of where they are parked.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Parkingeye Parking Charge Halifax
« on: August 06, 2025, 10:20:04 pm »
Having searched the forum, I have cobbled together the following POPLA appeal, copying mainly b789’s comments. I’ve focussed on the fact that I did not receive a NtK and their photos don’t show the vehicle parked in the EV bays, any guidance/help would be appreciated:

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POPLA Ref:
ParkingEye PCN Ref:
VRN:
No Notice to Keeper (NtK). No original Notice to Keeper (NtK) has been received. As such, ParkingEye have failed to comply with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, which requires a compliant NtK to be served within the prescribed timeframe and to include the mandatory invitation for the keeper to pay under paragraph 9(2)(e)(i). This requirement serves to ensure that the keeper understands their liability and has a clear course of action.

The operator cannot simply rely on the fact that the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) is addressed to the Keeper to satisfy Paragraph 9(2)(e)(i) of Schedule 4 of PoFA. The law explicitly requires a clear and specific invitation for the keeper to either:
• Pay the parking charge, or
• Provide the name and address of the driver (if the keeper was not the driver).
This is not an "implied" requirement; it must be explicitly stated. Merely inferring that the keeper is invited to pay because the notice is addressed to them does not meet the strict wording requirements of PoFA.

PoFA compliance requires specific wording. The law’s intention is to make the responsibilities of the Keeper clear and unambiguous. Phrases like "you are invited to pay this parking charge" or "you are required to do X, Y, Z" are examples of wording that PoFA expects.

If the notice only says, for example, "the charge must be paid" or "payment is required" without directly inviting the keeper to pay, this is insufficient under PoFA. The wording must link the keeper directly to the payment obligation in an unambiguous way.

The operator cannot claim keeper liability under PoFA if they fail to meet the explicit requirements of 9(2)(e)(i). This is a valid appeal (and defence) point, as courts and independent adjudicators should not rely on implied obligations instead of explicit compliance with statutory requirements.
Failure to comply with PoFA paragraph 9(2)(c). PoFA paragraph 9(2)(c) requires the Notice to Keeper (NtK) to describe:
• How the parking charge arose.
• How the requirement to pay was brought to the attention of the driver.
In this case, no NtK has been received so ParkingEye's NtK fails to meet these requirements.
Appellant not being the individual liable. Under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), the operator may only hold the registered keeper liable for an unpaid parking charge if they fully comply with all the requirements outlined in Paragraph 9. As no NtK has been received, the operator has not complied with PoFA Schedule 4, they cannot transfer liability to the registered keeper.

I put the operator to strict proof that:
• They have fully complied with all the requirements of PoFA Schedule 4, allowing them to transfer liability to the registered keeper.
• The person being pursued (the registered keeper) was, in fact, the driver of the vehicle on the date of the alleged contravention.

There is no presumption in law that the registered keeper was the driver. In VCS v. Edward [2023], it was ruled that the operator must provide sufficient evidence to prove that the registered keeper and the driver are the same person. Without such evidence, the registered keeper cannot be held liable for the charge.

Without evidence of the driver’s identity and given the clear PoFA non-compliance, the operator has no lawful basis to pursue me, the registered keeper, for this charge.

Insufficient evidence of the alleged contravention. The evidence provided by ParkingEye consists solely of two photographs showing the vehicle parked in a bay, the images do not show the location of the vehicle relative to any signage or bay markings, nor do they establish that any contravention occurred. The evidence is insufficient to demonstrate that the vehicle was parked in an EV charging bay, therefore ParkingEye has failed to provide any proof of the specific location where the vehicle was parked within the car park.

As a result, ParkingEye has not sufficiently evidenced that a contravention occurred, and this appeal must be upheld.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Parkingeye Parking Charge Halifax
« on: August 05, 2025, 02:07:51 pm »
Parkingeye have rejected my appeal and issued a POPLA code, I was surprised at how quickly especially as they did not even send a NtK and the photographic evidence is so poor, what are they trying to achieve? Do they have that much confidence in POPLA finding in their favour?  :o 

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Private parking tickets / Re: Parkingeye Parking Charge Halifax
« on: August 04, 2025, 12:32:57 am »
Thanks so much for this, I have appealed, let's see what they come back with.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Parkingeye Parking Charge Halifax
« on: August 03, 2025, 06:45:57 pm »
There is no evidence pack, I've logged onto their appeals page and the only options I have are as per the image below, when I click on 'view photographic evidence', I am shown the pics I shared earlier that show the cars reg number, it does not show anything else.

I asked the driver to go back to site and they are 90% certain that they did not park on the EV bays, they parked in the bays next to the EV bays, once again see pics attached grabbed from the video they shared.

At the risk of repeating myself, this is the only letter I've received, nothing else, plus it looks like someone took pics of the car but did not take any other pics?



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Private parking tickets / Re: Parkingeye Parking Charge Halifax
« on: August 03, 2025, 01:56:06 pm »
In all honesty, I don't know 100% as I'm only the registered keeper, they are telling me they didn't realise, it was late in the evening and they went for a bobba tea!

There are a number of bays and they claim they've seen other people park their non-ev vehicles there albeit at other times.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Parkingeye Parking Charge Halifax
« on: August 02, 2025, 09:40:57 pm »
Hi b789,

Many thanks for responding, yes that is correct ref the EV charging bay, I have not been sent the original NtK.

I have looked at their evidence on their website where they have shared the images, please see attached. You can see the images are very dark, there is no evidence where the car is parked and they are relying on this only to claim the car was parked in an EV bay.

There is nothing else apart from the reminder notice that I shared earlier.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Parkingeye Parking Charge Halifax
« on: August 02, 2025, 02:56:50 pm »
Thanks for pointing that out, this is Broadway Retail Park whereas that was Broad Street Plaza, both in Halifax.

Can I still use the same defence?

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Private parking tickets / Parkingeye Parking Charge Halifax
« on: August 02, 2025, 02:44:37 pm »
** EDITED, thanks @jfollows **

The registered keeper (who was not the driver) received the following charge, it states 'Parking Charge Notice Reminder' however the first notice has never been received!

Having looked at the forum I've noticed a similar topic before, where @DWMB2 advised that APCOA don't comply with Schedule 4 of POFA, this is Parkingeye

Can I use the same defence, there seems to be some differences in the PCN's?


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Dear Sirs,

I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ________) for vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you allege that the driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act"). You have chosen not to issue a Notice to Keeper in accordance with The Act, and it is now too late for you to do so.

There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not be doing so. I am therefore unable to help you further with this matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you must issue a POPLA code.

Yours,


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Private parking tickets / Re: Manchester Airport Debt Recovery Letter
« on: July 03, 2025, 12:22:48 pm »
Got it, registered keeper not the driver, if there is a next time. For this one the debt collection letters will be binned as it is too late to appeal.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Manchester Airport Debt Recovery Letter
« on: July 03, 2025, 12:13:44 pm »
Thank you so much for responding, it is appreciated and a relief. I will tell the driver to appeal should there be a next time.

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Private parking tickets / Manchester Airport Debt Recovery Letter
« on: July 02, 2025, 10:35:20 pm »
The registered keeper did not respond to the initial PCN (they cannot remember when it was received so don't have a copy).

They have now received a debt recovery letter, can you please advise how to proceed? Should they ignore it and wait for a LoC?

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP for Speeding
« on: February 12, 2025, 08:12:33 pm »
Thanks, I filled in her details on their website and received a confirmation email so all good, at least for me!

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP for Speeding
« on: February 12, 2025, 07:22:44 pm »
Thank you so much for your prompt responses, I will fill it in and leave it with her.

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