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That is a win. However, please do send the DVLA complaint. WE need to Mae sure that these rogue companies are investigated and that these complaints are logged with the DVLA for future reference.

You will likely receive a Step 1 response to the c complaint which will essentially be a fob-ff by the DVLA. However, let us know and we can advise on bow to escalate it to eh Head of Complaints at the DVLA in a Step to application.

Yup they did, what should I do to step 2

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Bluntly, the ones that apply to your case...

The obvious one that springs to mind is them claiming the ability to rely on Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act to recover the charge from the keeper, when the land on which the vehicle was parked is not "relevant land" for the purposes of that Act

Cheers DWMB2

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Here’s how to make a DVLA complaint:

[INSERT A SHORT SUMMARY OF THE BREACH(ES), e.g. failure to follow grace periods, misleading notices, refusal to engage with a complaint, pursuing a charge despite having evidence of disability or mitigation, etc.]

Would like to ask which reason(s) would be the best describe please, thanks

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NO. However, at some stage, Britannia will provide their evidence to POPLA and you will be given 7 days to respond. If/when they do, host the suitably redacted evidence pack on DropBox or Google Drive and we can provide a suitable rebuttal, which will be to POPLA, not Britannia.

Thanks b789, I got email from POPLA that Britannia cancelled the PCN, I gonna make the DVLA complaint in the next step
Once again, tyvm for your help

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Dear Mr XXX,

The operator has contacted us and told us that they have withdrawn your appeal.

If you have already paid your parking charge, this is the reason your appeal will have been withdrawn. Unfortunately, you cannot pay your parking charge and appeal, which means that POPLA’s involvement in your appeal has ended. You will not be able to request a refund of the amount paid in order to resubmit your appeal to us.

If you have not paid your parking charge, the operator has reviewed your appeal and chosen to cancel the parking charge. As the operator has withdrawn your appeal, POPLA’s involvement has now ended and you do not need to take any further action.

Kind regards

POPLA Team

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NO. However, at some stage, Britannia will provide their evidence to POPLA and you will be given 7 days to respond. If/when they do, host the suitably redacted evidence pack on DropBox or Google Drive and we can provide a suitable rebuttal, which will be to POPLA, not Britannia.

Thanks b789

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Use the following to make your POPLA appeal:

Tyvm b789, I'm really appreciate your help
One little question, besides make this appeal to POPLA,
do I have to reply or send anything to Britannia
Thanks

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Did you make the DVLA complaint?

Planned to make the complaint after Britannia admitted their fault and cancelled the PCN
But now they looks stubborn

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Well if you make a representation now and they reject it the penalty will still be £70, so you might as well give it a go. With Reading we usually manage to come up with something but as we're short on time, you might just have to put in a representation saying that the alleged contravention did not occur and leave it at that. The key thing is to make sure something is submitted before midnight on 2 April, send the representation online and take a timed / dated screenshot of the confirmation page.

Hi cp8759, hope you had a happy holiday last weekend
I did made a representation on 31st March said the alleged contravention did not occur
They've replied and rejected via letter
https://imgur.com/a/ENmOev3
Please advise is there further action could be done or should I just pay the £70 w/in 28 days
Cheers

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No need to explain anything else. When you receive the rejection or the request for the drivers identity, show us the letter and I will provide a suitable response. You may as well have some fun with the intellectually malnourished feckwits at Britannia.

Hi b789, hope you had a happy holiday in the last weekend
I've got their reply letter via email on 17th April and rejected the appeal
Please check the letter in the link below, cheers
https://imgur.com/a/UfA1oiE

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Here’s how to make a DVLA complaint:

Tyvm b789, love to make the complaint and see how DVLA react

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Report Britannia Parking to the DVLA as they have breached section 8.1.2(d) of the PPSCoP by declaring PoFA liability where the location is actually under statutory control. It clearly states:

"The parking operator must not serve a notice which in its design and/or language: state the keeper is liable under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 where they cannot be held liable."

Thanks b789, I've make appeal with your quote paragraph, let's see how would they response.

Moreover, would like to ask the steps to report them to the DVLA, cheers.

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Hiya, I as the registered keeper received a PCN from Britannia Parking dated 10th March 2025 for failed to make a valid payment.

The ANPR captured the vehicle enter the car park at 12:24:43 and leave at 16:31:57,
and I think them capture the face of the driver even they not disclose.

The driver purchased a pay and display ticket on 12:38 for 3 hours ended at 15:38,
with enter the car reg to the machine and made the payment by contactless card.

Please see the link for the PCN, screen cap from Britannia's website and the pay and display ticket
https://imgur.com/a/Hivwvgb

Please see the map for where the location is,
however the car park was just newly refurnished thus the signage can't be found in the map
https://maps.app.goo.gl/7cpBtSN2fD8CsQkS7

Would like to ask would is template suitable for this case, please.

Thanks

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I am appealing this Parking Charge Notice as the registered keeper of the vehicle.

Your Notice to Keeper (NtK) fails to comply with all the requirements of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), meaning you cannot hold me liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient.

It also fails to meet all the mandatory requirements of the BPA/IPC Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP). As you are fully aware, compliance with both PoFA and the PPSCoP is a condition of your KADOE contract with the DVLA, and your failure to adhere to these conditions not only renders this charge invalid but will be highlighted in a formal complaint to the DVLA for investigation.

Your NtK fails to meet the following statutory conditions in order to transfer liability to the keeper, including but not limited to:

• PoFA 9(2)(e)(i): Fails to include the mandatory ‘invitation’ wording for the keeper to pay or name the driver.
• PoFA 9(2)(f): Incorrect payment deadline, failing to allow the full 28 days before further enforcement action.
• PoFA 9(2)(h): Fails to clearly identify the creditor to whom the charge is owed.
• PoFA 9(4): Serious doubt over whether the NtK was posted on the date of issue, as it was received significantly later than expected under the presumption of service.

Since PoFA liability is only enforceable if ALL mandatory conditions are met, and your notice fails multiple key requirements, you cannot lawfully hold me liable for this charge.

Your NtK also fails to meet the standards set out in the PPSCoP, including but not limited to:

• Incorrect payment deadline, failing to allow the required 28-day period before enforcement action.
• Misuse of DVLA data by pursuing a charge where PoFA conditions have not been met.
• Failure to comply with the mandatory conditions of PoFA Schedule 4, which means keeper liability cannot be enforced.
• Failure to clearly and properly identify the legal entity acting as the creditor.
• Doubt over whether the NtK was actually posted on the stated issue date, raising concerns about misleading documentation.

As I fully expect this appeal will inevitably be rejected, regardless of its merit, as that is the standard practice of rogue/cowboy private parking operators, I do not intend to expand on these breaches in this initial appeal. However, if Britannia wish to waste their money funding a full POPLA appeal, where you are bound to fail, then be my guest. At that stage, I will expand on each and every failure in full, including why continuing to process the DVLA data when the NtK itself is non-compliant, Britannia is acting unlawfully.

Alternatively, you can do the sensible thing, save us both a complete waste of time and cancel this unenforceable PCN now.

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Should I reach the council or just keep calling again in every 7 days until its in their system.

Keep calling TEC
Check the status and amount due on whatever part of Reading's system you found the screenshot in your opening post and report here straighhtaway any changes.

Hi John, TEC got the PCN in their system on 13th February 2025 and I submitted the TE9 on 17th February 2025,
then I got the original PCN date 4th March 2025 yesterday as I not at home last 3 weeks
https://imgur.com/a/VMSoWCf
I think I missed the chance for 50% off w/in the 21 days
Would like to ask should I pay the £70 or make a representation, thanks

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Should I reach the council or just keep calling again in every 7 days until its in their system.

Keep calling TEC
Check the status and amount due on whatever part of Reading's system you found the screenshot in your opening post and report here straighhtaway any changes.

Cheers John

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