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I have just received an email from POPLA which appears to tell me EuroCar Parks have withdrawn the charge. As this has saved me £100 I'd just like to say thank you all very much for your invaluable help and advice.

Wording as follows:

Dear xxxxxx

The operator has contacted us and told us that they have withdrawn your appeal.

If you have already paid your parking charge, this is the reason your appeal will have been withdrawn. Unfortunately, you cannot pay your parking charge and appeal, which means that POPLA’s involvement in your appeal has ended. You will not be able to request a refund of the amount paid in order to resubmit your appeal to us.

If you have not paid your parking charge, the operator has reviewed your appeal and chosen to cancel the parking charge. As the operator has withdrawn your appeal, POPLA’s involvement has now ended and you do not need to take any further action.

Kind regards

POPLA Team


Thanks again.
Al

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Good point! And thank you. 👍

Appeal submitted with last paragraph edited as follows:

APPEAL POINT FOUR - That I believe that adequate time was purchased for the parking event which is causing this dispute - according to Just Park's own information entering the car park early is acceptable if the car is not actually parked in the space. So, the alleged overstay is in fact three minutes. Even considering a minimum grace period of ten minutes, the contractual dispute amounts to 1 minute - the operator's own evidence shows that the driver entered at 22.22 and left at 19.33 the following day - the 'time on site' was 21 hours and 11 minutes - 21 hours were paid for but 22 hours would have cost no more. Additionally, EuroCar Parks state in their correspondence that £12:80 was paid to JustPark when it was in fact £14.29. (Please see attached receipt.)

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Thank you all again and watch this space!

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Once again, thank you very much for this. I am removing the bit about the complex multi-storey as it isn't, but otherwise am submitting verbatim.

Just one other query - I'm not sure what grounds to appeal to POPLA on? I have said 'I did not exceed the free period' and 'Other'. Is that ok?

Best
Al

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Thank you! Very much appreciated.

Best
Al

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Afternoon all,

To the surprise of absolutely no one, Euro Parks have rejected my appeal. They have not dealt with any of the issues surrounding the Protection of Freedoms Act, the fact I have not identified the driver or the fact that the cost of parking 15 minutes earlier AND later would have been the same. They also state that £12.80 was paid to park when it was in fact £14.29, although I realise the discrepancy may be additional fees which they do not count. Their contention is still I owe them £100 for driving into the car park seven minutes early and leaving just over three minutes late.

Here are the files containing the letter I have received rejecting my appeal.

https://ibb.co/r2ndkvjG
https://ibb.co/r2VQQ16j
https://ibb.co/XkXHHQ2Z

Advice on my next move would, as always, be very much appreciated.

Best
Al

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Private parking tickets / Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
« on: February 21, 2026, 10:27:13 am »
Just to say my appeal is now logged with ECP and I await its dismissal with an overwhelming sense of inevitability. 😊

This is the text of the appeal I sent (required shortening as ECP only allow a certain number of characters on the form:)

I am appealing this PCN as the registered keeper of EK71JXG. Parking was pre-paid on the Just Park App from 22:30 on 22/01/26 until 19:30 on 23/01/26, booking reference 99882108. I also note from a new search the price would be the same for a stay from 22:15 until 19:45.
Your PCN states the vehicle was parked ‘without a valid Pay by Phone transaction.' A valid Pay by Phone transaction WAS paid for through JustPark, and the car was not parked within a bay except during the time paid for.
I also note the Notice to Keeper does not meet the full requirements of The Protection of Freedoms Act (2012). As a result, you cannot therefore transfer liability to the keeper, and, as I am under no obligation to do so, I will not be identifying the driver.
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Watch this space…

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Private parking tickets / Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
« on: February 19, 2026, 10:39:17 am »
Thank you Richard.

Here is my rewritten Appeal. Let me know if this is ok!

Dear Sir/Madam

I am appealing this PCN as the registered keeper of the vehicle. Parking was pre-paid on the Just Park App from 22:30 on 22/01/26 until 19:30 on 23/01/26, booking reference 99882108. I also note from a search conducted this morning that the price would be the same for a 22:15 stay on a Thursday night until 19:45 on a Friday evening.

Your PCN states the vehicle was parked ‘without a valid Pay by Phone transaction.' Therefore the grounds to appeal this PCN are that a valid Pay by Phone transaction was paid for through JustPark, and the car was not parked within a bay except during the time paid for.

Additionally, I also note the Notice to Keeper does not meet the full requirements of The Protection of Freedoms Act (2012). As a result, you cannot therefore transfer liability to the keeper, and, as I am under no obligation to do so, I will not be identifying the driver.

In summary, as the registered keeper of the vehicle, I believe this PCN was issued in error as parking had been fully pre-paid for the duration during which the vehicle was parked in Brunel House Car Park.

Yours faithfully

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Private parking tickets / Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
« on: February 18, 2026, 06:07:47 pm »
Hello there, Below is a transcript of my intended Appeal. Please advice if there are any glaring ommissions, errors etc.

One other thing - the PCN was issued on 28/01, but I did not receive it until 07 or 08/02 (Can't be sure.) That only leaves three days until the '11 days' early payment option disappears which seems sneaky at best, illegal at worst. Luckily, I'm not paying it. Anyway - the appeal:


Dear Sir/Madam

I would like to appeal this PCN as the registered keeper of the vehicle. I also pre-paid for the parking as outlined below.

The driver entered Brunel House Car Park at 22:22 on 22/01/26 and proceeded to unpack the car. The car was moved into its space and up against a barrier at 22:30 as that was when the allotted time paid for with JustPark began.

The car was booked into the car park through the JustPark App from 22:30 on the 22nd to 19:30 on the 23rd for £14.29, booking ref 99882108

The next day the driver arrived back at the car at 19:25, five minutes before the allotted parking time was over and moved the car away from the barrier to repack it. The driver then drove out of the car park at 19:33.

Your PCN states the vehicle was parked ‘without a valid Pay by Phone transaction.' I dispute this as a transaction was paid for through JustPark, and the car was not parked within a bay except during the time paid for.

On reviewing the information regarding the PCN, the Just Park App stated the early arrival is ok as long as the vehicle was not actually parked before the Parking start time. Presumably this would also extend to the three minutes after 19:30 on the 23rd. Either way, a £100 fine for a three minute overstay within the confines of the car park is highly excessive.

Additionally, I also note the Notice to Keeper does not meet the full requirements of The Protection of Freedoms Act (2012).

In summary, as the registered keeper of the vehicle, I believe this PCN was issued in error as I had fully pre-paid for the duration during which the vehicle was parked in Brunel House Car Park.

Yours faithfully....

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Once again, many thanks for your help.
Al

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Private parking tickets / Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
« on: February 18, 2026, 01:35:05 pm »
Just a quick note to say thank you for all this very helpful feedback. I will collate and attempt to compose an appeal which I will post here to be pulled apart before submitting!

Many thanks
Al

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Private parking tickets / Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
« on: February 11, 2026, 12:35:06 pm »
Just wondering if the PCN threw any light on the matter - especially the PoFA compliance issue mentioned by InterCity125?

Any help most appreciated.

Al

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Private parking tickets / Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
« on: February 10, 2026, 01:19:44 pm »
Thank you. Done.

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Private parking tickets / Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
« on: February 09, 2026, 09:24:54 pm »
Thank you for your reply Richard,

Unfortunately I cannot see how to attach an image - I don't have URLs for the images and I can't see another option in the icons bar?

1. Post edited
2. PCN avaialable but can't attach.
3. Also have photo from Just Park through whose App the space was booked. The address is Brunel House Car Park - Portsmouth PO13DR. Cost was £14.29. Message from the Just Park Bot also available.
4. I am the registered keeper and the PCN was in my name.

It is the nearest car park to the Isle of Wight Ferry terminal. The car was left there during a visit to family.

If there is an easy way to attach an image I'd love to know how!

Thanks again.
Alistair


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Private parking tickets / EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
« on: February 09, 2026, 05:22:43 pm »
Hi,

The driver prepaid for parking in Portsmouth in January from 22:30 until 19:30 the next day with Just Park. It was at Brunel House Car Park, which is apparently 'Private Land'.

The driver arrived at the car park at 22:22:34 and drove in, but did not park until the car was unpacked - after 10:30.
The next day the driver arrived back at the car at 19:25, and after moving the car (parked with boot against a barrier for extra security) repacked it and left at 19:33.

The driver just received a PCN from Euro Car Parks for £100 'The vehicle was parked without a valid Pay by Phone transaction.' The driver paid for 21 hours but they are saying 'parked' for 21 hours and eleven minutes.

Having spoken to the Just Park Bot, the driver was informed the early arrival is ok as long as the vehicle was not actually parked (how we prove this is unclear,) but on leaving, the three minutes (during which the driver had moved the car, but again, how does either party prove that?) constitute an overstay which the driver can be fined for.

Considering the driver paid for 21 hours, and not only was the overstay a maximum of three minutes and thirty one seconds, this seems excessively strict.

The driver would very much appreciate any advice on whether there are grounds to appeal considering the vehicle was not actually parked before the allotted time. The driver accepts the car was not driven out of the car park until three minutes past the allotted time, but this appears to be an excessively strict and unreasonable application of the rules - especially as the driver had returned to my car before the allotted time had run out and moved it to open the boot.

Many thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Alistair

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