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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering 47J Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand, Station Road RM2
« on: July 20, 2025, 02:14:54 pm »
Thank you both, Hippocrates, I will await your PM thank you
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering 47J Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand, Station Road RM2
« on: July 19, 2025, 09:47:12 pm »
Hello, I've now received a rejection letter so will be going to tribunal. Is anyone able to help me craft my representation? Thank you
Here is the rejection: https://www.flickr.com/gp/159808924@N04/g7T02w00rh
Here is the rejection: https://www.flickr.com/gp/159808924@N04/g7T02w00rh
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering 47J Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand, Station Road RM2
« on: June 22, 2025, 06:37:04 pm »
Thank you, what threw me was that they make reference to a 'notice to owner' but haven't sent me anything with that title.
Anyway, I've gone on and submitted my formal representations now on the basis of the above.
Thank you all for your help.
Anyway, I've gone on and submitted my formal representations now on the basis of the above.
Thank you all for your help.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering 47J Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand, Station Road RM2
« on: June 19, 2025, 10:12:01 am »
Thank you for the feedback.
I've gone on to make the appeal and have received the following message:
"Informal Challenge Denied
It would appear you have already been sent a Notice to Owner. At this time you can only make a Formal Representation.
Please click here to make a Formal Representation. You will need your web code which was supplied on the Notice to Owner."
My PCN isn't headed as a 'notice to owner' and I haven't received any other correspondence. Should I go ahead and make the formal representation, or has there been a procedural mishap on the part of the authority?
I've gone on to make the appeal and have received the following message:
"Informal Challenge Denied
It would appear you have already been sent a Notice to Owner. At this time you can only make a Formal Representation.
Please click here to make a Formal Representation. You will need your web code which was supplied on the Notice to Owner."
My PCN isn't headed as a 'notice to owner' and I haven't received any other correspondence. Should I go ahead and make the formal representation, or has there been a procedural mishap on the part of the authority?
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering 47J Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand, Station Road RM2
« on: June 18, 2025, 10:22:03 pm »
just bumping this in case it has been missed. Any feedback on the proposed appeal wording would be appreciated. Many thanks.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering 47J Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand, Station Road RM2
« on: June 18, 2025, 09:11:34 am »
Thank you all for your helpful replies. Please see below my proposed appeal for your review:
I hereby appeal this penalty charge on the grounds that the contravention did not occur.
Following my being temporarily stopped in one of the drop off & pick up bays on the opposite side of Station Road outside Gidea Park Station, I performed a traffic manoeuvre to turn the car around in the road in order to face in the opposite direction.
During performing the manoeuvre, I had to reverse slightly due to the parked car in front of me blocking my passage. This was a momentary and nominal stop, too minor to be of consequence, and purely to complete the manoeuvre.
A restricted bus stop is intended to stop people from stopping to board or alight passengers, and the video evidence clearly shows that was not the case for my vehicle.
Please can you kindly cancel the charge.
I hereby appeal this penalty charge on the grounds that the contravention did not occur.
Following my being temporarily stopped in one of the drop off & pick up bays on the opposite side of Station Road outside Gidea Park Station, I performed a traffic manoeuvre to turn the car around in the road in order to face in the opposite direction.
During performing the manoeuvre, I had to reverse slightly due to the parked car in front of me blocking my passage. This was a momentary and nominal stop, too minor to be of consequence, and purely to complete the manoeuvre.
A restricted bus stop is intended to stop people from stopping to board or alight passengers, and the video evidence clearly shows that was not the case for my vehicle.
Please can you kindly cancel the charge.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Havering 47J Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand, Station Road RM2
« on: June 17, 2025, 01:53:40 pm »
Hi there, PCN as follows: https://www.flickr.com/gp/159808924@N04/97uTp65EYa
GSV location as follows: https://maps.app.goo.gl/XYiuDsRQoqHYtFLY6
This incident occurred when I performed a u-turn having been parked for a short period in a legitimate drop-off point outside the station. I do this regularly, u-turns are permitted, as is passage through the bus stop when performing the u-turn.
However, on this occasion, somebody pulled up and parked in the bus stop, meaning my passage through was obstructed. I therefore needed to reverse up slightly to complete the manouvre. I'm providing this context so that, upon your review, my car isn't mistaken for the one already parked in the bus stop at the start, nor the black one that pulls in at the end.
Essentially I had no intent to stop in the bus stop and whilst my car stopped rolling for a second or two whilst transitioning from forward to reverse gears, I believe this is an unfair ticket and not in the spirit of the law which is to stop people using the bus stop as a parking or drop-off point. It was clear this was not my intent.
I feel compelled to appeal, but Havering doesn't offer an extended discount period if it rejects the appeal, so only want to appeal if I've got a good chance at tribunal. I sense that I have but would welcome the input of your experience and knowledge.
Many thanks,
GSV location as follows: https://maps.app.goo.gl/XYiuDsRQoqHYtFLY6
This incident occurred when I performed a u-turn having been parked for a short period in a legitimate drop-off point outside the station. I do this regularly, u-turns are permitted, as is passage through the bus stop when performing the u-turn.
However, on this occasion, somebody pulled up and parked in the bus stop, meaning my passage through was obstructed. I therefore needed to reverse up slightly to complete the manouvre. I'm providing this context so that, upon your review, my car isn't mistaken for the one already parked in the bus stop at the start, nor the black one that pulls in at the end.
Essentially I had no intent to stop in the bus stop and whilst my car stopped rolling for a second or two whilst transitioning from forward to reverse gears, I believe this is an unfair ticket and not in the spirit of the law which is to stop people using the bus stop as a parking or drop-off point. It was clear this was not my intent.
I feel compelled to appeal, but Havering doesn't offer an extended discount period if it rejects the appeal, so only want to appeal if I've got a good chance at tribunal. I sense that I have but would welcome the input of your experience and knowledge.
Many thanks,
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering Code 26
« on: November 26, 2024, 08:57:09 am »
Hi, can I check if there is any further advice before I lodge my informal appeal?
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering Code 26
« on: November 25, 2024, 09:13:43 am »
Ok, sorry I missed that bit. It is HG20618239 and LR15BCV.
Thank you
Thank you
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering Code 26
« on: November 25, 2024, 08:13:38 am »
Hi, the PCN was attached via a link in my first post, and I’m not sure what a VRM is? Do you mean you need the PCN number and the car registration? Only I redacted those because I thought that was what was necessary for confidentiality. If that’s what you need, please let me know and I will post it.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering Code 26
« on: November 24, 2024, 08:52:17 pm »
Hi, here is the details on the informal challenge pages. I left the extra space at the front of the car because there were bins blocking the pavement and I wanted to leave enough room for pedestrians with buggies or wheelchair users to pass by.
https://imgur.com/dgrGRrv
https://imgur.com/QGpZazQ
https://imgur.com/Uoafhsz
https://imgur.com/v3KSIEO
https://imgur.com/ps2E19y
https://imgur.com/RAkysS5
I trust this is what you're looking for?
https://imgur.com/dgrGRrv
https://imgur.com/QGpZazQ
https://imgur.com/Uoafhsz
https://imgur.com/v3KSIEO
https://imgur.com/ps2E19y
https://imgur.com/RAkysS5
I trust this is what you're looking for?
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering Code 26
« on: November 23, 2024, 10:40:57 pm »
Hi here are the grounds: https://www.havering.gov.uk/downloads/file/96/policy-for-enforcing-or-cancelling-a-pcn
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Havering Code 26
« on: November 23, 2024, 09:22:40 pm »
Hi, using my Blue Badge, I parked in a single yellow line area. The area is a cul-de-sac round the back of some shops.
I parked a bit away from the line but it made no material difference to traffic as it isn't a normal carriageway. As a disabled person I tend to try to leave a bit of space to get out without tripping on the kerb, I've been issued a ticket.
Any advice would be welcome. The ticket, CEO photos and the GSV location can be found below
https://imgur.com/a/c9vou0w
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HHZS2QcRWuxU3Z1GA?g_st=ic
I parked a bit away from the line but it made no material difference to traffic as it isn't a normal carriageway. As a disabled person I tend to try to leave a bit of space to get out without tripping on the kerb, I've been issued a ticket.
Any advice would be welcome. The ticket, CEO photos and the GSV location can be found below
https://imgur.com/a/c9vou0w
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HHZS2QcRWuxU3Z1GA?g_st=ic
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