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Absolutely amazing. Thank you so much, you're right this is a life changer!

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Thank you. Is there anything else you need from me?

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That's great. It was mentioned earlier that ' a more expanded upon version will form one part of each of your POPLA appeals.' Is that something you can help with?

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13/08/24



27/08/24



10/09/24



17/09/24
 That was the one earlier, but I'm struggling to find that original share link

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I appealed all of them with that same statement I provided earlier.
Only 1 of them so far has been rejected by Euro Car Parks which has resulted in a POPLA reference to appeal to them. I've not heard anything back from any of the other initial appeals to Euro Car Parks. I've not appealed to POPLA yet as I came here first and I've been waiting for assistance before starting that process. So 5 of the charges are still being appealed with Euro Car Parks and 1 of them has been rejected by ECP and is awaiting to be appealed with POPLA

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One more thing, does that go to POPLA? They're only rejected one appeal so far, but I expect more as it's the same incident

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Fantastic. Thank you so much again, I can't thank you enough

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No. The only thing I got from the notice to hirer was the redacted sheet I posted earlier and on the back of it is a generic terms which I've included below

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Ah, in that case yes I reffered to her as 'my wife'. I identified as hirer/lease on the initial drop down

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I subbed 'the driver' for what I actually put which was my relation to the driver. I'm the hirer, but I didn't think I could put that relation here so subbed it. But for everywhere you see the driver, it would have said my 'relation'. Sadly I sent the challenge before I even discovered this forum :-(

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Here's the PCN notice. Sorry about the delay, I didn't get back home until late last night



And this is what I put in the appeal

I am writing to formally challenge the parking fine issued on 17/09/2024 at Birkenhead Hamilton Square. I believe this penalty is unjustified due to the following reasons, and I kindly request that you cancel this fine.

The driver has been a regular user of your car park for over a year. They follows the same routine each time, parking the car, entering the registration number, and paying for the ticket via their card. For the past year, the standard charge for 24 hours has been £2.60, and this is the amount they paid on the day in question, assuming the same tariff applied.

However, I have since learned that a new tariff structure has been introduced, with the minimum payment of £2.00 covering only 4 hours, and the cost for 24 hours now being £2.80. While the signs may have changed to reflect this, I believe it was not made sufficiently clear to regular users, like my wife, that these changes had taken effect.

As a frequent user of the car park, the driver had no reason to check the signage daily, since they believed they were familiar with the parking fees. The new structure, particularly the introduction of a 4-hour minimum, represents a significant change that was not adequately communicated to loyal customers. This lack of clarity led to an honest mistake on their part.

I have attached two photos that show both the old tariff and the new one. The differences are subtle but important, and I believe that more proactive efforts should have been made to alert regular users of the change—either through clearer signage, or an additional notice.

Given the circumstances, I kindly request that this fine be reconsidered and canceled, as it seems unreasonable to penalise a customer for an unintentional oversight caused by an insufficiently communicated change in pricing.

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I appealed with Euro Car Parks and so far they've responded to 1 appeal and rejected it. I'm expecting them to reject the rest as it's the same appeal for each individual charge. I wasn't aware of some of the additional reasoning such as the BPA code of practice. Apparently my next step is to appeal with POPLA, but I'd lean on your guidance as this is a whole new world to me

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Yes, I also have metadata on those original photos, showing the date of the original machine and then at a later date when they put the new price over it. The last photos were all taken today and have the metadata for that

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I've managed to get the additional pictures

Here is the front of the car park. It only shows the new 24 hour rate, but doesn't show anything about them introducing a new 4 hour rate that is the default payment when getting the ticket



Nothing on the gate either...



Wider shot of the payment machine



Ultimately, a ticket was bought every day as per usual but because the default payment was for a 24 hour slot they introduced a new payment scheme including a raise in the 24 hour price but also a minimum payment for 4 hours which is what the machine defaults at.

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I'm away this weekend, but I'll get that including the entrance when I'm back on Monday. I really appreciate all this help, thanks again

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