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Private parking tickets / ECP Parking PCN - Overstayed by 13 minutes due to car breakdown - Morrisons, Stratford
« on: September 12, 2024, 08:04:14 pm »
[England]
3 minutes, if you factor in the grace period.
I am the registered keeper of this vehicle.
The driver drove into a Euro Car Parks lot at 8:55am and paid for a 2h ticket at 8:57am. The driver did their shopping and the shopping receipt says 10:55am. This meant the driver had 2 minutes remaining plus the 10 minutes grace period when leaving.
The driver left the car park at 11:10am, meaning the driver was 3 minutes over my grace period.
However, the driver would've been able to drove off earlier had the battery not went flat, the car was fine when the driver started it up this morning, and the driver needed to get the car jumpstarted.
The driver has no proof of this, the dashcam wasn't on because it's powered by the car and the car wouldn't start up. The only evidence there can be is a recording of the car now and showing that its not starting up as it still haven't got that repaired (the relevant party had a hospital surgery a few days ago, and the penalty notice was received yesterday even though it's been dated 6 days ago).
Breakdown is a justified reason for overstaying, and there is a question to be raised if there's anything that should be known on how to fight this? For example, it's said online that you can actually take this up to the supermarket themselves, and they can cancel the PCN, so there's that option.
There's also a template on MoneySavingExpert where you appeal the PCN and write this:
Apparently this works, so would also like to have people involved in this sort of field provide their opinion.
3 minutes, if you factor in the grace period.
I am the registered keeper of this vehicle.
The driver drove into a Euro Car Parks lot at 8:55am and paid for a 2h ticket at 8:57am. The driver did their shopping and the shopping receipt says 10:55am. This meant the driver had 2 minutes remaining plus the 10 minutes grace period when leaving.
The driver left the car park at 11:10am, meaning the driver was 3 minutes over my grace period.
However, the driver would've been able to drove off earlier had the battery not went flat, the car was fine when the driver started it up this morning, and the driver needed to get the car jumpstarted.
The driver has no proof of this, the dashcam wasn't on because it's powered by the car and the car wouldn't start up. The only evidence there can be is a recording of the car now and showing that its not starting up as it still haven't got that repaired (the relevant party had a hospital surgery a few days ago, and the penalty notice was received yesterday even though it's been dated 6 days ago).
Breakdown is a justified reason for overstaying, and there is a question to be raised if there's anything that should be known on how to fight this? For example, it's said online that you can actually take this up to the supermarket themselves, and they can cancel the PCN, so there's that option.
There's also a template on MoneySavingExpert where you appeal the PCN and write this:
Quote
I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.
There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I require an explanation of the allegation and your evidence. You must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date as well as your images of the vehicle.
If the allegation concerns a PDT machine, the data supplied in response to this appeal must include the record of payments made - showing partial VRNs - and an explanation of the reason for the PCN, because your Notice does not explain it.
If the allegation involves an alleged overstay of minutes, your evidence must include the actual grace period agreed by the landowner.
Apparently this works, so would also like to have people involved in this sort of field provide their opinion.