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HiMy wife was driving and didn't realise their was a school restriction on the road here....there is signage indicating the times it is valid....anything doing or just pay it....https://maps.app.goo.gl/jrMWDfAvRe9xh3kd8https://imgpile.com/p/m7WqkdV#JpygVv2

Quote from: cp8759 on 18 Jan, 2026 16:01Redbridge have now cancelled the PCN as a "gesture of goodwill".Thanks very much to @cp8759 for his work here. He is indeed a wizard of the first order!

Quote from: b789 on 14 Apr, 2025 16:41Next time you go to any airport without a barrier system, but where they still want to extort money from motorists, you don't have to pay. All you do is wait for the Notice to Keeper and appeal only as the Keeper without blabbing the drivers identity, inadvertently or otherwise. You simply remind APCOA or whichever unregulated private parking company is running the scam, that you refer them to the answer given in Arkell v Pressdram (1971) because they can only hold the driver liable and you, the Keeper, are under no legal obligation to identify the driver to a private company for an alleged contravention that took place on 'non relevant land'.Even if you did nothing and ignored everything that comes your way, such as powerless debt recovery threats and such, nothing would happen because APCOA are benign and do not litigate.It's your money.Thanks. All clear advice. I think on this one however I have jumped the gun and named the driver but will bear in mind for the future.

Quote from: jfollows on 14 Apr, 2025 15:26£25 may be worth it to avoid the hassle, I agree.And apologies that I was talking rubbish about PoFA earlier, brain fade, but the point seems to be that they know who the driver was now, whom they can pursue.Thanks again for the replies, much appreciated

Quote from: jfollows on 14 Apr, 2025 15:14You need to search the forum because I’m not going to do it for you, but if you appeal, the appeal will be rejected, then you’ll get letters from debt collectors with increasing amounts and scary words like “CCJ”. Eventually they’ll give up.The notice probably doesn’t comply with the requirements of PoFA 2012, it seems only to have some bits, you you may get POPLA to cancel the charge on a second appeal on this basis, as long as you don’t name the driver. However your email to them has implicitly identified the driver.PoFA only comes into its own if the driver is not known, by transferring liability to the registered keeper. It looks as if they know who both of them are now.Fair enough. I might just pay it while it is a small charge to make it go away....

Quote from: jfollows on 14 Apr, 2025 15:14You need to search the forum because I’m not going to do it for you, but if you appeal, the appeal will be rejected, then you’ll get letters from debt collectors with increasing amounts and scary words like “CCJ”. Eventually they’ll give up.Didn't expect you to search the forum for me!Thanks for the help much appreciated   

Quote from: jfollows on 14 Apr, 2025 15:04Currently APCOA do not “do” court. Was your complaint taken as an appeal, what did you say in it?If you didn’t appeal, there are sample APCOA/Stansted appeals here.This was my email...., I hadnt received the 'Parking Charge' as it was 4 days after I went to Stansted. Dear Sir/Madam,Hope you are well. I was late to pay my express drop off charge at Stansted, it is my first time there since the new system in place. I understand that the option to pay £7 has been removed in the last two weeks? So now I have to pay £25. This feels unfair as it was my first time even if the system has been in place for a few months now, seeing as I and other users of the airport may not have been there in this time we would be unaware and unused to it. I am asking if in this instance only as a gesture of good will could I still make the payment of £7?My registration is...... I look forward to hearing from youIn your experience if I do appeal, what normally happens then, will I still be bombarded with letters etc. Will they write and say they will drop the matter?

Hi I've received this in the post, as it was the first time I had been at Stansted since the barriers were removed and with the busyness of life I forgot to pay. I have received this in the post, with the option to pay £25 if paid within 14 days of the 'Date of Issue of this Charge' which would be the 19th April - this Saturday.I did phone and ask if I could pay the charge but they said too late. I cant remember if I said I was the registered keeper on the phone call.I have also made a complaint via email in which I did not expressly indicate whether I was the registered keeper but did say the registration plate was of my car.Should I just pay this now, bearing in mind my communications with the company.Thanks for any help

Quote from: baroudeur on 14 Apr, 2025 14:10Quote from: WaltWhite on 14 Apr, 2025 12:31HiThis is not correct any more at Stansted, the barriers have been removed for express drop off and pick up. Perhaps since the start of this yearQuote from: baroudeur on 08 Apr, 2025 12:02All Stansted parking is barrier controlled.It seems that the op has his vehicle registered to an account with Stansted Airport parking which allows entry/exit to the car parks and payment to be made later via his account.  On this occasion he hasn't paid in time.As a regular visitor to the airport it may have been wiser to have set up the account with auto-pay.Edit: to clarifyThank you for that update.  It went barrierless on 23rd January and is now pay online.Rather fortunately, as a regular visitor I have already opened an account with Stanstead (and Luton) although I wasn't aware that it had gone barrierless since my last visit in December. My next trip should have been last week but another relative made the drop offNo problem. For a while they were offering those that forgot to pay on the first occasion a chance to pay £7 after receiving a Parking Charge letter. Now this has gone up to £25 if you pay within 14 days. A shame as I think if you go over the Dartford Bridge the first time without paying you get the chance to pay later....

HiThis is not correct any more at Stansted, the barriers have been removed for express drop off and pick up. Perhaps since the start of this yearQuote from: baroudeur on 08 Apr, 2025 12:02All Stansted parking is barrier controlled.It seems that the op has his vehicle registered to an account with Stansted Airport parking which allows entry/exit to the car parks and payment to be made later via his account.  On this occasion he hasn't paid in time.As a regular visitor to the airport it may have been wiser to have set up the account with auto-pay.Edit: to clarify

Quote from: H C Andersen on 03 Feb, 2025 19:26The OP said reps were sent, whether they were made is to be determined. We don't know to what email address, how this was obtained, from whom, with what assurances, if any, their form and when. OP, pl let's try and establish these details pl.Or is this is now off thread? From page 3 of this thread....Given the email address by someone else in this threadFrom:Sent: 17 December 2024 23:06To: Parking and Traffic Enforcement <parkingandtrafficenforcement@redbridge.gov.uk>; Parking and Traffic Enforcement <highways.parkingappeals@redbridge.gov.uk>; Parking and Traffic Enforcement <highways.parkingmanagement@redbridge.gov.uk>Subject: Representations AF3....... (tried to submit this via website on 15th Dec)Dear Sir Madam,I am writing to formally challenge the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) number AF...... issued to myself for allegedly failing to comply with traffic restrictions on Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1. I believe that this charge has been unfairly issued and wish to present my case for your consideration.Firstly the sign indicating the restriction against traffic is not of the 'hinged' type that should be only visible during School Term Time. This type of sign has not received authorisation as suitable signage to traffic outside of the School zone, from the Department of Transport, rending the PCN here null and void.Secondly when attempting to make an online representation against this PCN, the website fetters discretion with regards to the grounds allowed. The LB Redbridge website indicates which grounds will not be considered here, and a public body should not adopt such a rigid policy that prevents it from exercising discretion in individual cases. I attach screenshots from the LB Redbridge website.Finally the online representation page fetters to only one ground only for representation. Again this is unfair and does not allow for proper consideration of the possible grounds for a PCN to be contested. I also attach screenshots from the LB Redbridge website.I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.Kind regards,

Quote from: cp8759 on 03 Feb, 2025 18:43@WaltWhite please email me unredacted copies of those and I'll forward them to the LGO.Done

Quote from: cp8759 on 16 Jan, 2025 22:27It seems a complaint to the LGO is required, this will be far easier if I do it for you, so I'm going to drop you a PM.Received todayReceived today....

Quote from: cp8759 on 16 Jan, 2025 22:27It seems a complaint to the LGO is required, this will be far easier if I do it for you, so I'm going to drop you a PM.Thank you @cp8759

I have received this response to my Stage 2 complaint. I sent me complaint in yesterday and received this at 9.03 am today:Date: 15 January 2025  Dear Mr Thank you for your recent letter dated requesting escalation of your complaint to Stage 2 of the Complaints Procedure. I am very sorry to hear that you are not happy with the reply you received from Gurpreet Kohli concerning the points raised in your original complaint. I am writing to give you our response to your complaint received on 14 January 2025.The contravention took place on 4th November 2024, for entering a pedestrian zone.   We contacted the DVLA and obtained the name and address of the registered keeper on on the 13th November 2024.    The PCN was then issued on 13th November 2024, and printed on 14th November 2024.  You have 14 days from the date of 14th November to pay the reduced amount or 28 days from the 14th November 2024 to make representation.  The following is taken from government website:-Parking fines and penalty charge notices: Challenging a ticket - GOV.UK  The 28th day to make representation was 12th December 2024, as no payment or representation was received, on the 13th December 2024 a Charger Certificate was issued.  As the Charge Certificate was issued on the 13th December 2024 you are past the point where a representation can be made, hence why you were unable to make representation online. This is our final response to your complaint/ appeal. You may now complain to the Local Government and Social Care Ombudsman. The Ombudsman is not a further appeal. It looks at whether public bodies have followed the right steps when taking action or reaching a decision.The Ombudsman decides whether it can and should investigate complaints. For example, the Ombudsman may decide not to investigate your complaint if you have not been significantly personally affected by the issue you are raising. You can find out more information about what complaints the Ombudsman may consider on its website. If you wish to raise your complaint with the Ombudsman you can find out more information about how to do so below:Website:  https://www.lgo.org.uk/how-to-complainTelephone: 0300 061 0614