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Thanks Stamfordman, yep I thought the same to be honest but thought it was worth asking here anyway.

Can't say I'm very optimistic about Hackney cancelling the PCN at their discretion to be honest! But might ask the question anyway, assuming that doesn't mean I'd lose the discount? Can anyone confirm wheththat's the case?

Thanks

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Hello all,

Received the below pcn the weekend before last. I was taking kids to their weekend football and parked the car on the edge of the Hackney Marshes carpark - not in a bay, so suspect I'm bang to rights on this one but thought I would seek opinions here before paying at the discounted rate.

Also below is a pic of one of the signs in the carpark. I checked and there is a line in there about parking within a bay (might be too small to read on the pic).

And finally, there should be a pic of the car which I took at the time.

I did pay for 2 hours of parking. Reason I parked it where I did was we were running late and the car park was quite full, didn't think it would be a problem leaving the car where I did as there was plenty of space for everyone to get past. But lesson learned!

If anyone has any thoughts on a possible appeal I'd be glad to hear them, otherwise will pay at the discount in the next couple of days.

Thanks all






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Thanks both - the rear passenger wheel is just about on the edge of the box and the other wheel is obscured. If I'd taken the corner slightly more sharply I think that wheel would have missed the box. So I agree it's petty, but is that an argument that tends to hold any weight with TFL..?

MrChips, can't recall how much space there was in front of me. I suspect I was aware of the yellow box so probably tried to go fairly close behind the white van. There seems to be quote a lot of space in front of the van though, not sure why they stopped where they did (although admit is a bit difficult to tell)

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Hello again,

Finally found someone with a DVD player  ::)  - amazed that TFL insist on using this tech, couldn't even access the file at any of the libraries in Hackney as none of them use DVDs any more.

Anyway - link to the vid is here - https://streamable.com/6pkqlr. It expires in two days but I can upload again if needed. Case is still on hold according to the TFL website.

The car (HK18 VVP) enters the junction at around 2mins 40secs.

Thanks all

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Hello all

Please see this link to a pdf related to the above PCN:

https://jumpshare.com/v/CGjz4ZTASKwufGNuc0J6

Short bit of background - this was a postal PCN which I never received. It was sent while we were in the process of moving and rennovating, and for whatever reason never actually made it into my hands. I received the Order for Recovery and subsequently filed a statutory declaration stating that I had not received the PCN. The charge was subsequently reduced to the orignal £80.

I am now expecting a copy of the original PCN to turn up in the post and will upload here when I receive it, however I thought worth posting the PCN details now anyway as members will be able to review the evidence on the TFL website.

I believe there are some procedural issues with TFL PCNs at the moment so would welcome any advice on possible options for challenge.

Many thanks!

Sam




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Thanks all for the helpful advice.

I am planning to submit an appeal to Hackney as follows -

Grounds:
There has been a procedural impropriety on the part of the enforcement authority

Explanation:
"This PCN was received in the post as the vehicle was moved out of the suspended bays before the CEO had time to issue a ticket.

The PCN states that 'The full amount of the penalty charge is £80.00'. It goes on to state that 'the Penalty Charge is reduced by 50% to £40 if paid no later than the last day of the period of 14 days beginning with the date on which this Penalty Charge Notice was served'. However, the LB Hackney PCN website states that the full charge is £160 (NOT £80) and is currently offering the opportunity to pay the charge at a reduced rate of £80. I have therefore been denied the opportunity to pay the reduced charge of £40 as stated on the PCN. This is a procedural impropriety on behalf of the issuer.

I look forward to receiving confirmation that this penalty charge has been withdrawn."

Does this adequately cover things? Would it be worthwhile to include screenshots/scans of the PCN and payment page? Grateful for any suggestions.

Thanks all

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Thanks all, I will wait for others to comment.

In answer to previous questions - yes Stamfordman, I parked directly opposite and the CEO was still there. He didn't say anything but moved on to another car parked in the suspended section, presumably to issue a ticket.

And re how long the car had been parked - it was definitely used the previous day at some point (the Sunday). I guess we just didn't notice the suspended bay sign.

Thanks all

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Hi Stamfordman - this is happy news!  :)

Could you advise what the best way to appeal is? Looking through the list of "statutory grounds for making representations" on the back of the form, would the best option be to go with "Any other compelling reason", explain that the Hackney payment webiste is asking for more than the amount specified on the PCN, and provide the screenshots you've helpfully pasted below?


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Hi, thanks for the reply -

PCN is in pdf format and hosted here: https://jmp.sh/cJ9WtFXW

Let me know if you have any trouble viewing it.

Thanks!

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Hello

I received the following in the post this afternoon:

https://jmp.sh/cJ9WtFXW

Quick summary of the story from my side - car was parked directly outside my house in a resident's bay. One morning, I noticed a warden in the process of issuing a ticket - initially thought perhaps our resident's permit had expired but no, the 3 bays outside our house had been suspended. Hadn't noticed the sign before the incident, no idea how long it had been there.

The suspension kicked in at 8.30 that morning, warden was issuing tickets around 8.40 (time on the PCN is 8.42). I immediately jumped in the car and parked on the other side of the road where the bays were not suspended, and before the warden had printed the ticket.

Received the PCN linked above just over a week later.

Here is a link to the street view: https://maps.app.goo.gl/tMSLNncfRWAjaWyM8

The whole thing just feels a little... unfair, somehow! But maybe that's just me.

Any advice gratefully received.

Thanks!

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Hi again, and thanks all for the advice so far!

I have scanned the full PCN and redacted personal details, uploaded here: https://ibb.co/vdDv7qG

For now, I'll request the video from TFL as well and ask them to pause the case.

Thanks all!

Sam

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PS - scan of the front page of the PCN here:


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Hello!  :)

Just joined the forum and am after some advice please on a TFL-issued PCN I received in the post. Offence is code 31, entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited.

The offending vehicle was turning left out of a traffic light-controlled junction and could not exit the yellow box due to stationary traffic. TFL have provided three photos as evidence for the offence, attached here. I'm not convinced though that these prove that my vehicle was the one that was stopped in the box - as you can see, you can't read the number plate of the car stopped in the box, only the plate of a car driving on a different section of road. Would be interested in peoples' views of whether this might be grounds for an appeal?

Here are the photos (I didnt seem to be able to attach them here for some reason):
https://freeimage.host/i/dRXSnb1
https://freeimage.host/i/dRXSCOP
https://freeimage.host/i/dRXSB5B

Thanks very much in advance for any advice you can provide!

Sam




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