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Sure, I edited the original post and attached photos of the PCN along with how far I parked away from the notice. It's about five or so bays away.

I last checked on Saturday 4th, but since it's getting darker earlier I missed the sign - otherwise I would have moved it across the road. I'm not sure when they put the notice up.

I would accept a bet of £100 that they will discontinue. If I had to put odds on the chance of this ever progressing as far as a hearing, it would be 1:1,000.

This is a great way to put it 🫡

I'll submit the appeal this week and see what they respond with. My plan is to get hold of the CCTV if the gym have it, otherwise I'll just attach my attendance as proof for the appeal.

Thanks!

Try with the gym. ECP are only interested in your money.

Popped over today and they're saying they don't have anyone they can contact. They used to have a lot of these issues but now since the ECP issued machine is in the gym, it's all out of their control.

I'm going to contact the manager to try and get hold of the CCTV. The staff member I spoke to said that I can try and do that and then use that and attach to the appeal.

So the staff member said that they don't know who the owner is for the retail park, but I'm going to speak to the manager to see if I can get anywhere.

They did however mention that this seems to be a common occurrence for some of the members. They received tickets but had them reversed after appealing by proving their attendance for that day.

Quote from: inst1nct103 on May 22, 2025, 08:59:41 am

However, the driver is a member of the gym, which gives free parking to members (provided you enter your vehicle registration in the machine inside). They are sure entered on arrival but the PCN suggests that didn’t happen.

First port of call is the gym to get it cancelled...

I'd imagine the systems are connected on the backend so not something they actively manage or have control over. Have messaged them nonetheless.

I want to understand what the options are here with respect to appealing if they cannot do anything about this.

Comments noted. I won't pay for the first PCN.

@Enceladus - consolidation makes sense The PCN number is ZN12536367 issued on 31/05/2024 11:14.

Based on comments in the thread, I just sent an appeal letter directly with the image of the PCN receipt paid at the pound all in (text here) to the address as a means to challenge. They responded saying it is too late to appeal:



From that point @cp8759 stepped into to represent.

@Incandescent - Understood, thanks for clarifying! I'll be sure to opt for the telephone hearing with that in mind

@Enceladus - yes, so this is dealing with 13 PCNs. The 14th one I am appealing separately, as I didn't officially receive an NoR for that and @cp8759 is helping me out with that one.

I've received a total of 13 NoRs and they all for the 13 PCNs and not the pound one.

I was abroad when my sister called me when she was at the pound getting the car released. They provided a print out of the PCNs as I requested them to do so via the phone, as I wasn't aware of any of them. I then proceeded to go onto the Haringey website and submitted the initial appeal one by one for each of them. It was a somewhat generic appeal and this was before the NtO stage and before I posted on this forum. I only posted on this forum when all 13 had progressed to the NtO stage as at that point I learnt about this forum from a friend.

The missing NtOs did not turn up and they never clarified why in their response. Also the copy they have given in response is the same copy on every one of the 13 PCN NoR letters.

Yes, they all arrived last Tuesday/Wednesday. I decided to open them yesterday as I knew I would need to set aside an evening for this and haven't had a chance since then. 11 of the 13 PCNs have been issued on the 21st and the rest have been issued on the 23rd.

And no need to apologise! Happy to detail anything I can.

PCN Number   NoR Received   NoR Date
1   ZN1212851A   Yes   21/09/24
2   ZN12266976   Yes   23/09/24
3   ZN12212900   Yes   23/09/24
4   ZN1235398A   Yes   23/09/24
5   ZN12354086   Yes   23/09/24
6   ZN12355191   Yes   23/09/24
7   ZN12354326   Yes   23/09/24
8   ZN12354417   Yes   23/09/24
9   ZN12354552   Yes   23/09/24
10   ZN12354734   Yes   21/09/24
11   ZN12411612   Yes   23/09/24
12   ZN12411827   Yes   23/09/24
13   ZN12413039   Yes   23/09/24

Okay all, it's been a while since I posted and that's because Haringey have taken their time to get back to me.

The short and disappointing news is that they have rejected every appeal and now all the PCNs (13 of them) have progressed to the Notice of Rejection. This time I have received the letters for each one and they all give the details as to why they were rejected. They simply mentioned that I should have been aware of the expiry date of my resident permit, that PCNs may have fallen off due to adverse weather conditions and some filler text about being offered the initial opportunity to pay the reduced fee.

They did not address the lack of delivery for some of the Notice to Owners, the suggested argument for continuous contravention being applied here nor the email I received from the Head of Highways and Parking at Haringey Council, wherein she said that vehicles are typically removed after 3-5 PCNs being issued.

I've attached images here of one of these in order to not flood the entire post with the same copy across all of the PCNs. I have omitted the other pages which are just the forms to fill in to progress this.





As a reminder, I submitted two different appeals.

For PCN 1/13, I tried to appease to their sympathy that I did not see the email. It turns out it arrived into my junk folder and my email client did not pick up on this. I had to go onto GMail to locate it.

For PCN 2-13/13, I use the argument of continuous contravention.

My thoughts/questions:

1. I am considering paying the reduced fare of PCN 1/13, as it was my mistake. Thoughts on this?
2. Despite the reduced rate being offered for PCN 2-13/13, I think it makes sense to appeal this further. @Enceladus also mentioned in the previous post that are some discrepancies in the photos of the PCNs. I will look to see if there are anymore and build the case off this + continuous contravention.
3. I've not done this before so for my understanding, I am assuming this is now going to progress to a hearing where I will need to attend court?