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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering Council - 52M No evidence of PCN contravention shown in video footage
« on: September 07, 2024, 12:11:10 pm »
UPDATE - Hi @Hippocrates

Whilst on holidays I’ve received a notice of rejection on the appeal. (Attached in the link below with the original)

Interestingly they have clarified and stated that the road sign contravened is, “ vehicle entered a road restricted to motor vehicles (except for access)” versus the other sign which is for buses only lane (runs parallel).

 I’ve attached a screenshot from apple maps in the link below.

Surely this would mean entering the pub car park and exiting for access would be fair to null and void the fine?

Many thanks in advance for the advice.


https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zP24Pi1Lmw0FeSxj6Rv724f0GFekB3Xu

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering Council - 52M No evidence of PCN contravention shown in video footage
« on: July 21, 2024, 09:38:30 am »
Thank you @Hippocrates for the points and drafting!

I've submitted and will keep you posted.

@francisgran - Appreciate the input. I can understand your logic. My original point was that the evidence doesn't definitively show this. There could be other reasons to explain why it looks the way you mentioned from the angle.

However im a newbie and here to learn ha.


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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering Council - 52M No evidence of PCN contravention shown in video footage
« on: July 20, 2024, 11:37:08 am »
PCN attached @Hippocrates. Thank you

@H C Andersen - I agree. There are lots of signs in that area however my point is (which im looking feedback on) is:

1. Its unclear/ not definitive what part of that road that was contravened.
- Was it the bus lane? It doesn't show me in the bus lane.
- Was it the main road?  There is "Except for access" on (south street/ victoria road) on the main road to a car park across the road

2. The video evidence doesn't actually show any contravention. There are no road signs, nor road marking in the images/ video.

Including gdrive as uploading function doesnt seem to work.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zP24Pi1Lmw0FeSxj6Rv724f0GFekB3Xu?usp=sharing



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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Havering Council - 52M No evidence of PCN contravention shown in video footage
« on: July 19, 2024, 03:34:29 pm »
Hi

Havering Council
Contravention code: 52M

Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/2gti94Upp7ymq8Bz9

I have received a PCN from Havering Council alleging a, "failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle." However the evidence that has been attached doesn't show any contravention. i.e. no signage nor road markings.

On the face of it, the pics and vid show a vehicle being driven.

Having read others claims im struggling to see other examples of this.

What are other peoples 2 cents?

Thanks in advance

Video: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/mxn9zna8btxwado78di8z/Media.mp4?rlkey=bm9kw489cox8j8h5h49fm7706&st=bfvgbczh&dl=0

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