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Hey team, This has now been transferred to my local court as expected.



Is there anything I should do at this point?

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Quick FYI to up date this thread. I've just got off the Mediation call, who was a very nice chap by the way, where I was offered 3 options.

  • Offer nothing and stand my ground
  • Offer to pay the full claim
  • Offer to some of the claim

I chose door number 1 and said I'm willing to see them in court.

I'll now wait for the claim to be discontinued

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Thanks b789, I've already downloaded and emailed my own N180 to DQ.CNBC@justice.gov.uk

...so now just attend the mediation, offer nothing and wait for the claim to be discontinued?

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Hi All,  a couple of things have happened this week.
  • I received a 'Notice of Proposed Allocation to the Small Claims Track' letter.
  • I received  a Mediation Appointment Confirmation email

I've posted both of these below but only partial amount of the email as it was quite long and a lot of default info, but please let me know if you'd like to see the whole thing.

Looking at other threads in the forum, I gather I should, at the mediation...
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Just say if asked about your defence or position that you have set out the basis of your defence in writing, and the claimant is in receipt of a copy. You stand by it's contents, do not believe you owe the claimant anything, and you are therefore not prepared to offer more than £0 in return for the claim being discontinued.

Notice of Proposed Allocation to the Small Claims Track


Mediation Appointment Confirmation email (Partial)


Many thanks for your continued support!

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Many thanks b789. I have completed and emailed the directions questionnaire and received an automated response from DQ.CNBC@justice.gov.uk

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Hi All,

I've received a response to the defense of the claim as follows:

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Having reviewed the content of your defence, we write to inform you that our client intends to proceed with the claim.

In due course, the Court will direct both parties to each file a directions questionnaire. In preparation for that, please find attached a copy of the Claimant's, which we confirm has been filed with the Court.

Without Prejudice to the above, in order to assist the Court in achieving its overriding objective, our client may be prepared to settle this case - in the event you wish to discuss settlement, please call us on 0203 434 0433 within 7 days and make immediate reference to this correspondence.

If you have provided an email address within your Defence, we intend to use it for service of documents (usually in PDF format) hereon in pursuant to PD 6A (4.1)(2)(c). Please advise whether there are any limitations to this (for example, the format in which documents are to be sent and the maximum size of attachments that may be received). Unless you advise otherwise, we will assume not.

They also attached a 'Directions questionnaire' (attached)

Please advise if there is anything I need do at this stage?

Many thanks.

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Thanks for your support so far... very much appreciated.

To keep things up to date on this thread, here's a copy of the Acknowledgement of Defense



Cheers

Tim

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Hi Team,

Quick FYI that I sent the defence email off to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and received the following, automated, response:

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Thank you for emailing the Claim Responses Team in the Civil National Business Centre. Please expect a response to your enquiry in 10 days

When sending us documents please ensure you comply with the Practice Direction 5B

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part05/pd_part05b

Documents not complying will not be accepted, in particular if it is over 10MB or 25 printed pages in size.

Cheers.


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Hey there, I've now received a Claim Form from HM Courts & Tribunals service...











Can you advise next steps please?

Many thanks!!

Tim

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Hi there, I've submitted a report to HMRC but at the end I didn't get a notification that a claim form will be send.

I went through several pages of who & what I was reporting but at the end posted this as the 'report'

Due to DCB Legal Ltd's reply to my questions about VAT, where DCB Legal have replied trying to have me believe the £170 is exempt, rightly or wrongly I suspect them of possibly not applying VAT on the £70 DRA fee (added on top of their client's £100 parking charge, which is VAT exempt).  DRA fees are certainly not exempt and DCB Group (Ltd and Legal) has collected multi-millions of £170 in the past 5 years or more.

They are suspected by many consumers of treating their extortionate £70 fee (per PCN) wrongly as if it's a parking charge. If this is the case, it will be hundreds of millions of times.


I only got the following...

HMRC will:

  • review your submitted report
  • not provide updates due to confidentiality
  • not provide updates due to confidentiality

HMRC will only contact you if necessary. You will hear from HMRC if:

  • we need further information about your report
  • you are suitable for a reward

Rewards are not guaranteed.

Is this to be expected?

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Hi guys,

The debt collection company have come back to my email with the following:

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We write in response to your correspondence received in our office dated 09/03/2025.

We now respond to the same as follows.

As payment was not made, either within 14 or 28 days of the Parking Charge being issued, the creditor was entitled to instruct debt resolution agents/Solicitors to pursue payment and is entitled to recover the costs of doing so.  It would have been made clear in the terms and conditions set out in the signs that additional enforcement costs may be incurred in the event of non-payment.
In accordance with the British Parking Association (BPA) Code of Practice, where the Parking Charge (PC) becomes overdue and before Court proceedings have commenced, a reasonable sum may be added for the debt recovery fees. The correct recovery fees have been added and will not be removed. As such, the outstanding balance of £170.00 remains payable to prevent further action. The HMRC ‘VAT Supply and Consideration manual’ (VATSC06140), confirmed that parking charge falls out of the scope of VAT.
Please note, the amount owed is a genuine pre-estimate of the losses incurred in managing the parking location to ensure compliance with the clearly displayed terms and conditions.

You now have 30 days from the date of this email to make payment of £170.00. Failure to make payment will result in a Claim being issued against you without any further reference.
Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account: -

Account Name: DCB Legal Ltd Client Account   
Sort Code: 20-24-09   
Account Number: 60964441

You must quote the correct case reference (120673.82110D) when making payment. If you do not, we may be unable to correctly allocate the payment. If further action is taken by us as a result of an incorrect reference being quoted, you will be liable for any further fees or costs incurred.

Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/.

Kind Regards,

Is there anything I should do at this stage or let things run there course?

Many thanks.

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Thanks @b789,

I'll send that on. One question though, should I not confirm why the debt is disputed? eg:

1) The Notice to Keeper (NTK) was delivered outside of the relevant period specified under sub-paragraph 9 (5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (POFA)
2) The required statement 9 2 (e)(i) inviting the keeper to pay the unpaid parking charges was not given.

I can share all the docs that I've been able to find from the original communication if you want. 

Many thanks!


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Hey guys,

So I have now received a 'Letter of Claim' from a company dcb legal so coming back as suggested. Is there anything I should do?

Thanks!

Tim




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Awesome... thanks so much for the advice

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Hey Guys,

I received a Notice to Keeper back in Jan 2021 where the vehicle was parked for 'longer than the maximum period allowed'. I posted an appeal with POPLA but I can't remember the outcome it was so long ago and can no longer log into that particular appeal. I think it may have been rejected but advice given back on the old 'FightBack Forums' was to reject the charge due to:

  • 1) The Notice to Keeper (NTK) was delivered outside of the relevant period specified under sub-paragraph 9 (5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (POFA)
  • 2) The required statement 9 2 (e)(i) inviting the keeper to pay the unpaid parking charges was not given.

The charge was passed to a debt recovery company (Debt Recovery Plus) and I sent a letter to them explaining why I wasn't going to pay and didn't hear anything back until recently when I got a Notice Of Debt Recovery' letter from 'Direct Collection Bailiffs Ltd'.

Could you give me your thoughts on resending the letter I originally sent Debt Recovery Plus or should draft something new?

Happy to post all the docs I still have but this is limited now.

Many thanks as always!

Tim


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