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My wife received this over Christmas (We haven't had a PCN for over a year and now three in a week!)

Once again this appears to be bang to rights but every time I think that an expert here has saved me (though they have been different kinds of PCN).

My wife paid for only one journey through and forgot to pay for the return.

Before I pay it is the paperwork all as it should be? Is there anything incorrect as there often is with these? Hope so and thank you for your consideration.

https://i.ibb.co/RGgnYVQb/PXL-20260107-164449373.jpg
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I am hoping that Southwark council might let me off this one out of the kindness of their heart (then I remember who I am dealing with).

I parked in a bay outside a friends house on Croxted Road in Herne Hill, London. I did everything as I should have done and paid for the time but when I returned I had a ticket. Unfortunately PayByPhone has two cars registered for me and it had (or I had) selected the wrong registration.

As I can prove I have paid albeit with another registration and as I can prove both cars belong to me do you think they will accept that? I am interested in seeing if anyone has had this experience before. They have been paid after all for the initial time.

I am definitely going to question it just wanted advice on how to go about it please?

https://i.ibb.co/wFqjffcm/PXL-20260107-155425133.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/ycdvHY7R/PXL-20260107-155433655.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/ZRS7ngh3/PXL-20260107-155441972-MP.jpg

Thank you for your consideration.

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I left my car overnight outside Forest Hill station on a single yellow line. I was unexpectedly delayed in collecting it the next morning and got a ticket at 09:15

While this looks absolutely bang to rights I thought I had better check to see all the paper work is as it should be before I take the hit and pay up.

Thank you for your consideration.

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A very quick response from Southwark.

You are strongly advised to redact yr name & address.

Thank you. Now redacted.

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A very quick response from Southwark.

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Please take a screenshot of the web page. I will look at the video later this evening and get back. Please do not pay it! I have not lost a bus lane case in the last 4 years.

Much appreciated Hippocrates.

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Good evening,

I wanted to run this past you as although my gut feeling is that I am bang to rights in this instance I have read that you haven't lost a Bus Lane case since 2021 so I thought It wouldn't hurt to check.

I have been issueed a PCN by Southwark for being in a bus lane temporarily having existed a Shell garage into the traffic on Crystal Palace Parade in London.

I attach the full PCN and the images/video they have as evidence. Moments after the video ends I pulled into the right lane as I was turning right up ahead.

Apologies if I have forgotten to add anything. Any advice would be gratefully appreciated.

PCN (4 pages)

https://imgur.com/a/YJSKRSt

Evidence given by Southwark:

https://imgur.com/a/LJfvsaT











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Sorry not to respond sooner. Amazing outcome. I wish I had been there. I cannot thank cp8759 for his excellent counsel and service. Another victory against ridiculous PCNs.

I love this forum.

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I have now had a reply and they are sticking to their guns. Essentially it doesn't matter that it was a Sunday so no signs were necessary. The main thrust seems to be that despite their acknowledgment that the markings are faded (an understatement) the car was parked outside the lines to the PCN is enforceable.

I would be very grateful for your thoughts on what I should do next? Pay the fine and be done with it or go to court.

I attach the entire letter for your consideration. @cp8759 your input has been invaluable so far and it is much appreciated.

Thanks,

Tom.

https://ibb.co/8bQ308n

https://ibb.co/hDHw2vK

https://ibb.co/N7HM3gh

https://ibb.co/bmv9pV2

https://ibb.co/zRHLfVn

https://ibb.co/3pRgmJJ

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I have finally been sent the Notice To Owner after weeks. I attach links to all 3 pages of what I was sent. I was unable to post the images directly.

I really appreciate all the time and effort people have put in to advising me so far so I would be grateful for everyone's input on what the next steps would be now please?

https://ibb.co/kMLyxLr - PAGE 1

https://ibb.co/vwvSMLj - PAGE 2

https://ibb.co/yBZzz8B - PAGE 3.

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The inference from the council seems to be that the signs were irrelevant. You cannot park outside the lines at any time, despite ignoring the fact that the signs are almost rubbed out.

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Hello,

I've finally received a letter back from Bromley Council nearly three months after I contested it.

I am surprised to find out that they have decided not to cancel the PCN. I have attached the letter in full.

Surely you have to have clearly marked lines to enforce this and clearly this wasn't the case here. Please could you advise what to do next? I know it is only £30 but I would like to fight it if you think that is sensible. I would be grateful to hear anyone's thoughts on this.

If the lines were very clearly marked then fine but they aren't. The images clearly show the lines are almost non-existent.

Once again I am very grateful for your input. My hit rate on this forum (in its previous incarnation) is 3 PCNs and 3 victories. Hoping to continue that.

Letter - https://flic.kr/p/2qcF9ku

There are two pages to the letter but the only thing of note on the second page is, "No signage is required for this type of restriction." before going on to explain how I can pay the PCN.

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This is incredible thank you. I have sent it all off, photographed everything and I await their response. I am the registered keeper and have the V5. I can't tell you how much I appreciate this.

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Would be really grateful if someone could help. I think I have put up everything possible.

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