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Im presuming I'm out of luck with this one?

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Manchester’s bus lane TRO’s seem to define a bus lane as being bounded by a thick white line but there is no thick white line present. If the bus lane TRO you allegedly contravened uses the same definition, the argument is that the PCN must be cancelled as there is no bus lane in that location as defined by the TRO.
I’m guessing that the bus gate is indicated by a round blue sign with a picture of a bus. If so, the sign conveys that the route is restricted for use by buses. Contravening this sign is, according to Govt guidance, a moving traffic contravention and not a bus lane contravention. Therefore the appropriate contravention description is Code 33 - Using a route restricted to certain vehicles.

Thanks, How do i get the TRO to check ?

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We need the whole PCN please.

Hi Apologies I fell ill, Cant seem to modify my post. so attached them below.






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Hi

Yes i think he was, he is a new driver.

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He came out of St Marys Parsonage and turned right

https://maps.app.goo.gl/iYHzzsgXPmUE3sNn6

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Hi

My son has received this PCN. I have looked at similar posts and none seem to have been positive. I have looked at the below PCN and some things that stand out and may be worth challenging are

There is no contravention code mentioned anywhere - Does the Traffic Management Act dictate this must be included?
It states the contravention as being in a bus lane (during the hours of operation of the bus lane) - Firstly The picture shows this a bus gate and secondly it fails to mention what the hours of operation are.

Can anyone advise if these are valid points ?

Many thanks for your responses.


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A single yellow during its restricted time is the same as a double yellow.

Draft a challenge and post here first.
My reason for stopping was solely for the purpose of unloading goods/items at Opera Grill. This was a brief stop necessary to transfer items from the vehicle namely DJ equipment consisting of decks, lighting and cables. I have emails confirming the booking on that day if required and also the invoice. Upon reviewing the location and the signage, I observed that there appears to be no specific restriction sign directly applicable to the bay where my vehicle was stopped. The only sign visible in the vicinity stated, "No stopping except buses" and featured an arrow pointing to the left. Crucially, the area designated as a bus stop, to which this sign presumably refers, was clearly and unambiguously delineated by yellow lines. My vehicle was parked in a bay outside these yellow lines, suggesting it was not part of the restricted bus stop area. Given the absence of any other prohibitive signage for the specific bay I occupied, and the clear demarcation of the bus stop area, it was reasonable to conclude that stopping for unloading was permissible in that location. Therefore, I believe the PCN was issued incorrectly as the signage was ambiguous and did not clearly indicate a restriction for the bay in question. I kindly request that you review my appeal and cancel the aforementioned PCN.

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Why didn't you park on the DYL outside Opera?

DYL are always a no for me and it causes traffic build up if parked there, i was told previously where i parked is ok after 6.Unloading 10 mins from a parking attendant.

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You are allowed time to complete loading or unloading but you must be in the process of doing so.

Where were you when the pictures were taken? You need to account for 6 mins observation time.

Do you have any paperwork proving unloading of equipment or reason for doing so?



I'm presuming I'm good to appeal on the basis I was unloading?

Thanks

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I carried it over the road to opera grill. The event was upstairs which is at the back of the building. It would take me 6 mins to get to the room the event was taking place.

I do have an email from the customer confirming the booking on that date.

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Hi All,

Looking for some advice. I parked in front of the yellow bus markings while unloading some dj equipment. I've parked there previously and been advised by an attendant that i had 10 mins, not sure if that's his choice or the actual rules. As you can see i was observed for 6 mins and booked I seen her walk off just as I returned !

Any advice would be greatly appreciated !






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Incandescent it's been with them since the beginning ? do I need to call them or speak to Birmingham council?

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yes traffic enforcement centre, although the address is hm courts and tribunals.

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