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Thank you for your draft!

I thought I would give it a day to see if anyone else would be able to share their input.

I'll wait a bit longer, but the 14 day 50% discount period will soon be up.

Should I add that there were no signs on the side of the road where I parked? I have pictures above to confirm that.

Look forward to hearing from other experts in this forum.

Thanks.

I have created this draft, please let me know what you think.

I mentioned the old site with the outdated information as well. If this is not a good idea, then I will remove it. Look forward to your feedback.



Dear [Authority Name],

I am writing to formally challenge the Penalty Charge Notice issued to me for parking on Drummond Road in Zone G on New Year’s Day, January 1st, 2025. My decision to park there was based on the information provided on your official website regarding parking restrictions on public and bank holidays.

Before parking, I conducted a Google search to ensure I understood the parking restrictions applicable on New Year’s Day. My search led me to two pages on your website:

A page last updated on 28 November 2023, which explicitly stated that yellow lines are enforceable on public and bank holidays.
A more recent page last updated on 20 December 2024, which is part of your newer website and did not state that yellow lines are enforceable on public and bank holidays.
Given that the December 2024 page is the most recent and part of your updated site, I reasonably relied on this information to conclude that yellow lines were not enforceable on public and bank holidays. This information directly influenced my decision to park on Drummond Road.

Had the December 2024 page clearly stated that yellow line restrictions remain enforceable on public and bank holidays, I would not have parked in this location. The absence of this critical detail created a misleading impression of the parking rules, which resulted in my unintentional contravention of the regulations.

I respectfully submit that this inconsistency in the information provided on your website constitutes a procedural impropriety. I acted in good faith based on the most current and official guidance available.

I kindly request that the Penalty Charge Notice be canceled on this basis. I look forward to your response and thank you for your time and consideration.

Yours sincerely,
[Your Full Name]
[Your Contact Information]

I have updated the PCN with no redactions.

Quote from: kolag22 on May 22, 2024, 01:32:36 pm

Ok that sounds great. Do you know where I can find a template to submit the Out of Time Witness Statement based on others being in the same situation?

There are no templates because every case is different.
Bailiff Advice is probably best placed to help you with this, especially with the dubious adding of the extra £110 fee.
I suggest you send them a private message via this forum.

Thank you, I'll go ahead and do that.

Appreciate the help from you and everyone.

Quote from: kolag22 on May 22, 2024, 10:03:38 am

@Neil B @John U.K. @Incandescent

Please see details requested above.

Thanks in advance.

The problem you have is that you, the keeper holding the V5 for the car, are responsible for the correctness of the V5 address. So why was the Flat Number not on the address on the V5 ?

If you're going to submit an Out-of-Time declaration to get the matter reverted, (and your money back), you will have to explain why none of the statutory documents reached you. Most cases we see on this forum where people don't receive any documents before bailiffs knock on their door are due to address errors on the V5. In some cases we've seen V5s with addresses over 2 years out of date.

Others will no doubt comment.  Note that having paid the bailiffs has absolutely no influence on the success or failure of an out-of-time Statutory Declaration, or Witness Statement.

The address on the V5 was the address provided by the landlord. I was not informed that the word 'Flat 1' needed to be added before the door number. Is there a template that others have used based on them running into the same situation?

@Neil B @John U.K. @Incandescent

Please see details requested above.

Thanks in advance.

Quote from: kolag22 on May 20, 2024, 01:07:00 pm

I found the letters there. They had no name on them, and the letter had an additional number for the door number (for example, if the house number was 44A, the letter showed Flat 1 44A, where it should just be Flat 44A

How does that compare to your V5C? Don't guess, actually get it out and look at it?

I've finally found the V5C and yes, the address on it is different from the address on the Royal Mail postcode finder.

So, like in the example above, Royal Mail shows two similar addresses, Flat 1 44A and Flat 3 44A. But the address on the V5C is just 44A.

How do I use this information and is there anything else I need to check?

Thanks in advance.