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@everyone any feedback on the draft, the 28 days deadline to respond is not too far?

Thanks.

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They cancelled the PCN and sent email which might have gone to spam as I have no record in my email about it.

Thanks everyone for you help.

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I've sent an email to them yesterday to confirm they have cancelled the ticket, fingers crossed I get positive response from them.

Ill keep you guys updated.

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Hi all,

I have drafted a response to send via email to enforcement@parkingeye.co.uk.

Can you please review and suggest any amends if needed before I send them?

Thanks in advance.

================================Draft
I write in response to your Letter Before County Court Claim. I dispute your client’s claim in its entirety and no debt is admitted.

1. No breach – vehicle engaged in loading/unloading, not parking

At all material times the vehicle was engaged in legitimate loading/unloading activity in the course of making deliveries to residents. Temporary stopping for this purpose does not constitute “parking” in law.

This position is supported by the persuasive and directly applicable authority of Jopson v Homeguard Services Ltd [2016] B9GF0A9E, in which HHJ Harris QC held that brief stopping for loading/unloading is not parking and falls outside the scope of typical private parking restrictions, particularly in residential settings. That judgment expressly distinguishes ParkingEye v Beavis and remains routinely relied upon at County Court level.

Your reliance on ANPR entry/exit timestamps is legally and evidentially insufficient. ANPR does not evidence any stationary period, unattended vehicle, or acceptance of contractual terms. No parking event is proved, and accordingly no contract was formed and no breach occurred.

2. Beavis is wholly distinguishable

ParkingEye v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67 concerned a retail car park with a clear commercial justification related to space turnover. This case concerns a residential housing association site and a vehicle engaged in necessary delivery activity. There is no legitimate interest in penalising unloading, and any attempt to rely on Beavis is misconceived.

3. Unfair and prohibitive signage

Signage at the site is prohibitive (“Residents only”) and makes no provision whatsoever for deliveries. Such signage is incapable of forming a contract with delivery drivers and fails the transparency and fairness requirements under sections 62–68 Consumer Rights Act 2015. A prohibitive notice can only sound in trespass (which your client has no standing to pursue), not contract.

4. Abuse of process – unlawful double recovery

The additional £30 claimed is expressly disputed. The Supreme Court in Beavis confirmed that the parking charge itself includes the operator’s costs of enforcement. Any further sum constitutes double recovery and is unrecoverable, as consistently held in County Court authorities (including, inter alia, Excel v Wilkinson).

Even if (which is denied) any parking charge were due, the maximum recoverable sum would be the original £100, and that too is denied for the reasons set out above.

5. POPLA decision not determinative

You are no doubt aware that POPLA decisions are not binding on the courts. POPLA failed to apply Jopson correctly and applied Beavis indiscriminately. The court will determine the matter afresh on the evidence and law.

6. Pre-Action position

In light of the above, your client has no reasonable prospects of success. Should proceedings be issued, I will seek an immediate strike-out or summary judgment and will rely on this correspondence when the court considers costs under CPR 27.14(2)(g).

I therefore invite you to confirm, within 14 days, that the claim is discontinued. Any further pursuit will be robustly defended.

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@b789 I hope you are well.

Can I please get some help on the next step regarding the notice of claim I've received?

Front: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dHSMD_Z55_N27woCi8IfRO3bNCd6xHlC/view?usp=drive_link
Back: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cfqdcoGsimiNMW5L0QBv0tjAZ8J3KtFB/view?usp=drive_link

Thanks in advance

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Can someone please suggest what should be the next step from this point onward, getting a bit nervous...

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Hi all,

Happy new year, I hope all of you had good break.

I have received a letter today, I'm not able to figure out if it's a Letter of Claim or not.

Front: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dHSMD_Z55_N27woCi8IfRO3bNCd6xHlC/view?usp=drive_link
Back: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cfqdcoGsimiNMW5L0QBv0tjAZ8J3KtFB/view?usp=drive_link

They have referred in the letter to read paragraph 8 which talks about a supreme court case of Mr Beavis which they think is the basis for them to get a verdict in county court?

I thought I get input from wise and not just simply ignore it

Also if it's not Letter of Claim, will it come from court or some nominated agency of Parkingeye?

Thanks in advance.

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I applied online, Sunday will be 56 days, Ill send them an email on Monday and enquire about the outcome.

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I have calculated it’s 51 days including weekends since I appealed I’ll wait another week and send them email.

This is the email I found:
parking@bathnes.gov.uk

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When I use their form to make a payment and put pcn number and reg number, I see this message:
There is currently nothing outstanding on this notice.



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Hi all,

I haven't received any letter or email from Bath council, usually you receive a reply within a month (at least from councils in London) but it's now close to two months, should I be a bit worried?

Thanks.

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Thank everyone for the contributions, we have won the appeal.

The main point I raised was confusing layout due to one large bay for two resident permits and sign poles closed to each other, no disabled legend on the road, and also encouraged council to use it's discretion and cancel the PCN.

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I have appealed today, I'll keep you posted how it went.

Thanks.

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@b789, I have submitted the complaint using the form on this page:
https://popla.pages.dev/contact

The van was an electric one and my brother was fed up due to repeated theft of charging cables (London you can expect anything and everything) and we have sold the Van over weekend, does the sale of Van play any role going forward? or we still wait for Letter of Claim (LoC)?

Thanks in advance.

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Hi all,

I hope all of you are well.

My wife parked the car in a resident disabled parking bay, we do have a valid Blue badge, the disabled bay was rather long (2 cars can easily be parked) because the street is off busy barking road with loads of shops she thought one car spot must be for the resident and other one for blue badge holders.

I believe the bay was for two disabled residents(I could be wrong) as there are two poles with signs, no legend on the bay though. She went to pick up food order from a shop on Barking road and by the time she came back ticket was there.

Can something be done to avoid this ticket?

Ticket: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z2XpA0hoslxaFwLM6ItIgaz6klf_-EyN/view?usp=drive_link
Reg No: LK11KNP
PCN No: PN24293546
Newham Portal to view ticket: https://parking.newham.gov.uk/en-GB/pages/OnlineReferenceEntry.aspx?loadtype=NOTICEREVIEW
GSV of Latimar Avenue: https://tinyurl.com/yc8dwnjt


Thanks in advance for your help.

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