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Thank you. I would need to double check the roundabout point with the driver.

If you are willing to represent me I will go to tribunal. Please let me know the next steps. Thanks again

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The notice of rejection was only sent by email today but it's dated 10 November. Is it worth raising this? They also sent the original PCN late

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I have now received the notice of rejection. Please could someone advise if this is worth taking to tribunal?


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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN Parking Eye Gale St Dagenham
« on: November 16, 2025, 01:09:20 pm »
So it's worth appealing in case the landowner is amenable? Is that what you're saying?

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN Parking Eye Gale St Dagenham
« on: November 16, 2025, 10:36:58 am »
The bottom line is any appeal based on the defence given will be rejected, Parkingeye won't accept their PCN isn't POFA compliant. An appeal to POPLA is also unlikely to be successful. This is not because either body routinely reject appeals, it is because the defence relies on an interpretation of the legislation that even the experts on here disagree on.
 
After that you will get lots of letters from debt collectors. Eventually you will get a letter of claim. At that point it may go to court. I don't think we know of a case won on this defence, although that's often because cases don't reach court or there are stronger defence arguments.

The driver didn't follow the car park rules and unless you as the keeper name the driver they can  come after you for the PCN. Not paying the invoice is a breach of contract they can successfully pursue you for.

Parkingeye are known to be more litigious tha many private parking companies. The real question is are you feeling lucky and are you prepared to engage with the court process?

I didn't realise the prospects at POPLA were so bleak. I found some decisions that I thought were helpful, but to be clear you're saying they are not?

POPLA Appeal 6060637496 (2016)
POPLA Appeal 6061796103 (2016)
POPLA Appeal 6160338204 (2017)

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN Parking Eye Gale St Dagenham
« on: November 15, 2025, 04:31:55 pm »
Consideration and grace periods have nothing to do with this PCN. The vehicle was on the private property in breach of the terms and conditions.

Read the alleged contravention:

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By either not purchasing a valid pay and display ticket, by remaining at the car park for longer than permitted, or by not entering your registration details via the terminal, in accordance with the terms and conditions set out in the signage, the Parking Charge is now payable to ParkingEye Ltd (as the Creditor).

I specifically asked why did the driver not enter their VRM into the terminal and was told "They were not visiting either of the businesses it applies to".

The only defence the Keeper has is to not identify the driver and plead no PoFA liability as para 9(2)(e)(i) has not been complied with.
Ok, thank you. I was a bit concerned as you said this argument would ultimately need to convince a Judge. Does that mean ParkingEye will take me to court?

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN Parking Eye Gale St Dagenham
« on: November 15, 2025, 10:21:01 am »
Would there be any poiny in also arguing that the time stamps don't reflect the length of parking or that the grace period hasn't been given?

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN Parking Eye Gale St Dagenham
« on: November 14, 2025, 06:49:06 pm »
Many thanks

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN Parking Eye Gale St Dagenham
« on: November 14, 2025, 01:56:48 pm »
They were not visiting either of the businesses it applies to

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Private parking tickets / PCN Parking Eye Gale St Dagenham
« on: November 14, 2025, 01:19:05 pm »
The driver entered the car park, found a space and parked. The driver was taking their minor daughter to an urgent optician's appointment.
The PCN has been received in the post today


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Thanks very much. I'll continue to wait for another month in that case.

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I submitted the reps online on 17 September, which is now over 56 days ago. I have not heard anything. I checked the PCN online and it was still showing as £80 owed.

Can anyone please tell me whether Havering do in fact have longer then 56 days to respond as they claim on their website?

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I requested the footage a week ago but there has been no reply. Can I do anything about this/does it help with challenging the PCN?

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Apologies for not providing the right GSV and thanks for correcting.

The road was blocked by construction work. There was a lorry blocking the road and it wasn't possible to get past it

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Does that mean there are grounds to challenge the PCN?


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