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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Yellow lines, green circle and fog

« on: January 18, 2025, 12:42:26 am »

Just to clarify, that this was definitely not thick fog. The photos from the two cameras are definitely different with the one supposed to show the speed limit signs looking like it's dense fog, but the speed camera looking like a light mist. There's no way either me or my wife would be driving that fast if the fog was as it was in the speed limit signs camera. Even the speed camera makes it look worse than it was. It was Boxing Day and not that foggy - at least 500m of visibility. I think the combination of a night photo and light fog makes the picture look worse than it was.

Speeding and other criminal offences / Yellow lines, green circle and fog

« on: January 15, 2025, 10:20:59 pm »

Hi

I've received a NIP asking for driver information. I've been able to logon and see the photographs.

From a bit of searching, I think the yellow lines are to measure the speed - should there be a second photo passing the other yellow line because there isn't one?

And again from searching, I understand the green circle is to identify the VRN of the car being measured, but in this case the circle is not on the VRN - does this give a way out?

Also, one of the photos is totally misted up so that nothing can be seen. Does it give a way out?

NIP says the vehicle was recorded at a speed of 79 mph so from what I've read on the 'read this first' post it sounds like it has only just hit the threshold for prosecution. Not the best Boxing Day present I've ever had

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Thanks.

Private parking tickets / Re: I entered wrong registration plate, offered £20

« on: January 31, 2024, 05:25:23 pm »

Hi.

Thanks for the helpful replies. An update from me. PALS agreed to cancel the charge so that's great news. As per the advice given above, if they hadn't done this I'd have just paid the £20 because whilst I'm aggrieved about it, I'm not that aggrieved to risk it going up much higher and losing an appeal to POPLA / court action and all the time I'd have to spend preparing for it.

Thanks.

Private parking tickets / I entered wrong registration plate, offered £20

« on: January 27, 2024, 12:51:41 pm »

Hi

I received a PCN from APCOA because I entered the wrong registration number. Admittedly, we had recently changed my wife's car and I entered the registration for her old car rather than the new one. This was at Birmingham Dental Hospital. I asked the Dental Hospital if they would ask APCOA to cancel the ticket, but they claimed "Unfortunately the car park is run by an independent company. You would need to contact APCOA regarding this." They didn't say whether they owned the car park or not. I've yet to contact PALS, but in the meantime I'm up against a 14 day deadline so need all help I can get.

I appealed through APCOA and showed them the voucher I was provided with by the hospital for free blue badge parking and the receipt for entering the registration plate of our previous vehicle. They considered the appeal but advised me it was "unsuccessful". They say "Although we appreciate the evidence provided, the payment has been allocated to a different Vehicle Registration Number (VNR)."

They've given me opportunity to pay £20 to cover admin costs or take to POPLA in which case if I lose I'd be liable for £85.

I see that the BPA has a rule that in these situations for a major keying error, that parking companies must offer an admin fee instead of the full fine if an appeal is unsuccessful but that it is UP TO £20, not exactly £20.

Have they really incurred £20 of admin fees by sending out an automated PCN, having an automated appeals process and then probably one person read my appeal for 2 minutes and then send out a template rejection letter? Is it worth me taking this to POPLA or should I cut my losses and pay the £20?

I know it was my mistake, and I know it's idealistic to think they should be helpful in these situations, but any advice would be appreciated.

One other thing, their letter is dated 24th January but I didn't receive it until today, 27th January. The letter only states "Pay the Parkin Charge Notice at the discounted price of £20 within 14 days" but does not define the starting date. Does this make their letter invalid? If not, when does the 14 days start?

Thanks.