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Received a reply with rejection from Newham Council. A couple of immediate questions came to mind:

- what is "for an extended period beyond what is reasonably necessary to assist a passenger?"?
- How did the CEO know the length of time, if there was no time between the observation and issuing of the PCN?
- Are the bay markings clear, compliant, and correctly separated in accordance with the Traffic Signs
Regulations and General Directions 2016 as they claim it to be?

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Thank you for your correspondence received on 24 October 2025 regarding the
above penalty charge notice (PCN). Your comments and the notes of the Civil
Enforcement Officer (CEO) have been considered.

Your vehicle was observed at 17:39 Parked in a permit space or zone without a valid
virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid physical permit where required (dedicated
disabled bay) in Winter Avenue.
You have stated -
You are requesting cancellation of the PCN because the bay markings were unclear and
non-compliant, failing to properly separate different restrictions as required by regulations.
You also state that you were engaged in an exempt activity assisting a disabled passenger
with boarding/alighting and had a valid Blue Badge displayed. You argue that the signage
and markings did not clearly indicate a separate restriction, and you acted in good faith.
I have carefully reviewed your comments and the circumstances you described; however, no
grounds for cancellation have been established.

After further investigation, I can confirm that the signage and bay markings at the location
were clear, compliant, and correctly separated in accordance with the Traffic Signs
Regulations and General Directions 2016. A clear time plate was also in place, indicating the
restriction for the Disabled Residents Permit Holder bay. These markings and signs
adequately conveyed the restriction, and therefore the contravention was correctly enforced.
Regarding your point about the boarding and alighting exemption, this applies only when the
process is continuous and does not involve leaving the vehicle for an extended period
beyond what is reasonably necessary to assist a passenger. The Civil Enforcement Officer
observed your vehicle and recorded no such activity during the observation period.
Therefore, this exemption does not apply in this case.

Finally, while a Blue Badge was displayed, this does not provide entitlement to park in a
Disabled Residents Permit Holder bay unless a valid permit for that bay is also held. The
restrictions for these bays are specific and apply at all times to ensure access for residents
who rely on them.

For these reasons, the Penalty Charge Notice was issued correctly, and we are unable to
cancel it.

In conclusion, having taken all aspects of this matter into consideration, no
justification for cancelling the penalty charge notice has been found.
The discounted payment of £80.00 will be accepted in full and final settlement
if paid not later than the last day of the period of 14 days beginning with the
date of service of this letter.

You can view evidence of the contravention online at parking.newham.gov.uk by
selecting ‘View a PCN.’ You will need your PCN number and vehicle registration
mark (VRM).

If payment is not received within this time, the full penalty amount of £160.00 will
become payable.

Payment should not be made if you wish to pursue this and want to make formal
representation, as payment is seen as an acceptance of liability and will close the
case.

If payment is not received as detailed, I shall assume that you wish to pursue the
matter and shall arrange for a Notice to Owner to be sent after the period of 14 days
to the registered keeper of the vehicle so that formal representations may be made.
Should these be rejected, the registered keeper of the vehicle will then be offered the
opportunity to appeal to the Environment and Traffic Adjudicators. I should point out
that, should you decide to take this course of action, after the discount period has
expired, you will forfeit the right to pay the Penalty Charge at the lower rate and the
full charge of £160.00 will be due.

If you are not the registered keeper of the vehicle, for example the vehicle is a
company or lease/hire vehicle, or being used with the owner`s consent, I suggest
you advise the keeper that a Notice to Owner will be issued.

Please note that Newham Council is unable to consider any further correspondence
at this stage regarding this penalty charge notice.

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How do I obtain the traffic order for this bay? And how long does it usually take?

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On the day of the alleged contravention, I was dropping off the passenger who is a blue badge holder. The road is a one way road, and the only parking space available at the time was the disabled bay and was also closest to the house I was dropping the passenger off to.

I parked in the bay wrongly assuming it was a regular blue badge bay, based on the road markings and failed to read the sign plate stating it is for disabled resident permit holders only. I displayed the blue badge and escorted the passenger into the house and was no more than 2-3 minutes before returning to the vehicle to find the PCN affixed to the car.

As you can see on the PCN, there was no observation time and was issued immediately. Any help would be massively appreciated.





https://maps.app.goo.gl/V5aX2CQKfeUCpoPw8

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Letter of claim has been received, how do I proceed from here?


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Ok reading through some of the other posts with this company, I guess i just ignore until i receive the Letter of Claim (LoC)

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Hi all, I've now received the Notice of debt recovery letter, although it arrived in the post yesterday (23rd June) but was dated 11 June.

According to the letter I have 14 days from the date on the letter, which would be tomorrow (25th).

Any advice on how to proceed with this would be welcomed  :)




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Hi everyone,

Looking for some advice on how to proceed with a PCN that I received. I was travelling with a blue badge holder passenger and pulled up on the side of the road to allow them to disembark the vehicle. This section of the road (Uxbridge Road), is a one way road with parking bays on one side, it was extremely busy with no available parking spaces. I opted to pull over to the other side of the road which was marked with double yellow lines and parked in a way where I was not blocking any traffic. I displayed the blue badge and had my hazards on.

As I was assisting the passenger out of the vehicle, I failed to spot the traffic warden standing a fair distance behind the vehicle and took a photo as evidence (shown below). The ticket was fixed to my windscreen when I had walked the passenger inside the shop. Looking at the timestamps, the ticket was issued/printed before the photo was taken and affixed after I moved away from the vehicle.

Do I have any grounds for appeal?





GSV: https://maps.app.goo.gl/wQXnRRjKVYLZoQPz7

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POPLA have rejected the appeal:

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When assessing an appeal, POPLA considers if the parking operator issued the parking charge notice correctly and if the driver complied with the terms and conditions for the use of the car park on the day. The parking operator provided evidence of the signs on the car park, which advise that a £100 PCN will be issued to drivers who do not park within marked bays. The operator has provided photographs of the vehicle parked across 2 bays. I note that the appellant says that they are appealing as the keeper and that the notice to keeper is not PoFA compliant. PoFA 2012 is a law that allows parking operators to transfer the liability to the registered keeper in the event that the driver or hirer is not identified. Parking operators have to follow certain rules including warning the registered keeper that they will be liable if the parking operator is not provided with the name and address of the driver. In this case, the PCN in question has the necessary information and the parking operator has therefore successfully transferred the liability onto the registered keeper. I will be assessing the grounds of appeal using the new Single Code of Practice which replaced the 2024 British Parking Association (BPA) Code practice and relates to all PCN’s issued on or after 1 October 2024. However, the grounds of appeal relating to signage at the site will be assessed using the 2024 BPA Code of Practice Version 9 as this still currently applies. I acknowledge that the appellant says that the signage is inadequate as it cannot be read clearly from where the vehicle was parked. Section 19.3 of the BPA code states that signs must be placed throughout the car park so that drivers have the chance to review the terms and conditions. The code confirms that these signs must be conspicuous and legible and written in intelligible language so that they are easy to see read and understand. The operator has provided multiple images of the signs within the car park and after reviewing these, I am satisfied that there are plenty of signs located within the car park and that these signs meet the requirements of section 19.3 of the Code of Practice. I am, therefore, satisfied that there was sufficient signage in place to make the driver aware of the terms and conditions of parking. I note that the appellant has also provided a photograph of the signage at the site which also demonstrates that there are signs on site. I note that the appellant says that signs cannot be read clearly from where the vehicle was parked however, as the vehicle was not parked in a disabled bay there is no requirement for this. Section 5.1 of the Single Code of Practice states that parking operators must allow a consideration period of appropriate duration, subject to the requirements set out in Annex B to allow a driver time to decide whether or not to park. In this case the operator allows a motorist 5 minutes from entering the site to park, read the terms and conditions and decide if they can comply with them, if they cannot, then they can leave without incurring a PCN. Where a motorist chooses to stay, then they are deemed to have accepted the contract offered in the signage, which in this case is to park within the markings of the bay or space and by not doing so, the motorist is in breach of the terms and conditions of parking. I respect that there were not disabled bays available, that the size of the normal bays were not suitable to accommodate wheel chair access. I acknowledge also that the passenger of the vehicle is disabled and needed additional space to get in and out of the vehicle. As the driver chose to remain in the car park, they have accepted the contract offered within the signage and have agreed to park within the marked bay. If there were no parking spaces available in the disabled parking area and the normal bays were not sufficient for their passengers needs, then the driver could have left the site and parked elsewhere. I understand that the driver displayed the blue badge, however, there is nothing within the terms and conditions shown in the signage which allows motorists to park across 2 bays if they display a blue badge. I appreciate the appellant’s comments regarding the circumstances on the date in question. POPLA does consider whether issues of discrimination have had an effect on the parking contract. We know that the Equality Act specifically protects people with a disability or protected characteristics from unfavourable treatment, and this does apply during the provision of services such as parking. In order to assess what effect the Equality Act had in the present case, we would need to be satisfied that there had been unfavourable treatment, and that the appellant’s disability/characteristic was one of the reasons driving the unfavourable treatment. In this case, the warden has seen that the vehicle is parked across 2 parking bays and a PCN was issued in accordance with the signage. Whilst I understand the reason for parking across 2 bays were due to the passenger’s needs, this was not a factor that led to the issuance of the PCN. Therefore, I would not agree with the comments that the operator has breached the Equality Act. The signage on site is clear that that vehicles must be parked only within marked bays, and photographs have been provided showing that the vehicle was not parked within a marked bay. Any driver that parks outside of a marked bay would receive a PCN. While I understand the need to park across 2 bays, this ultimately does not exempt them from the terms and conditions of the contract they entered into when parking on site. I note that the appellant says that there is no evidence to show that the vehicle caused an obstruction, however, the fact remains that the vehicle was not parked within the markings of a bay and has breached the terms and conditions. Any complaints that the appellant may have regarding the operator’s comments in their evidence pack, is not within the remit of POPLA to address. The role of POPLA is to determine whether the PCN has been issued correctly, which it has been in this case. The appellant would need to address any complaints they have regarding the operator directly to the operator. After considering the evidence from both parties, the motorist parked across 2 bays and therefore did not comply with the terms and conditions of the site. As such, I am satisfied the parking charge has been issued correctly and I must refuse the appeal. POPLA is not involved with the financial aspect of the parking charge. For any queries regarding payments, the appellant will need to contact the parking operator directly.

Also received this letter from UKPC. Any help on how I should proceed would be greatly appreciated, I do not wish to pay a single penny to these scammers.


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Thanks, will send that off and await a response although have little faith that it will be upheld.

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Please show us exactly what you put in your POPLA appeal and the operators evidence pack.

POPLA appeal:
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I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. The passenger in the vehicle is a disabled person who requires additional space to embark/disembark the vehicle. As no vacant disabled bays were available, the size of the normal bays were not suitable to accommodate wheelchair access. They failed to notice the blue badge that had been presented on the dashboard of the vehicle. This is in breach of the Equality Act 2010. The signage is also inadequate as it cannot be ready clearly from where the vehicle was parked. This is confirmed by the evidence submitted by UKPC whereby they took a photograph of the nearest signage however this is not legible from the close distance of where the photo was taken, so it cannot be read from the distance of the parked car.








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Just like this person https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/ukpc-parking-notice-not-parked-correctly-within-the-markings-beckton-triangle-re/ , I find myself given a charge for the same exact reason.



Driver parked on 25/11/2024 at Beckton Triangle Retail Park car park. Passenger was a blue badge holder. There were no free disabled bays, so parked on a regular bay but leaving enough space on the passenger side to allow the wheelchair user to get out of the vehicle.

PCN was issued by post on 27/11/2024. Sent appeal on 07/12/2024:




On 03/01/2025 received a rejection letter. Made an appeal to POPLA on 03/02/2025, and UKPC submitted their evidence on 11/02/2025.

In the appeal to POPLA, the same points were made that the passenger was disabled and required more space than the regular parking space allowed. A copy of the disabled badge was provided.

I need to reply by the 18th, and would like some assistance on where I stand with this?

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Newham is at it again, similar to this case here (http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=152145&hl=newham)

Context:
I parked on this road and saw that the time plates on both sides of the road had been defaced. I assumed that I can legally park there as I did not know the hours of restriction and believed that it to be unenforceable.

I received a PCN on my windscreen:


The car was parked directly infront of the sign that was defaced as you can see from the photo that the CEO took:


All of the signs that I could see on both sides of the road within the vicinity of where the car was parked were defaced. I have marked all of the timeplates below in green. The CEO took a photograph of the only timeplate that was not defaced at the furthest end of the road (highlighted in red) instead of showing the timeplate that was directly in front of the car:



I submitted an informal representation immediately, although I did not keep a copy of this. But my main point argued that signs should be clear and legible citing both the DfT Traffic signs regulations and London Councils Code of Practice on
Civil Parking Enforcement.

I received a response:
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Thank you for your correspondence received on 04 October 2023 regarding the
above penalty charge notice (PCN). Your comments and the notes of the Civil
Enforcement Officer (CEO) have been considered.
Your vehicle was observed at 11:49 Parked in a residents' or shared use parking
place or zone without a valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid physical
permit or voucher or pay and display ticket issued for that place where required, or
without payment of the parking charge in Manor Park Road.
You have stated the sign had been defaced where you parked.
We noted that you have provided evidence that one of the nearest time plates was
vandalised.
However, CEOs records and images taken indicate that a time plate was available
nearby.
Furthermore, your vehicle was parked in a CPZ, an area in which every part of the
road is controlled, the operational hours of the CPZ are advised on entry signs and
there is no subsequent obligation for signs to place at individual parking locations.
Motorists are expected to check what restrictions are in force before leaving their
vehicles unattended.
Failure to meet that obligation lies with the motorist and does not provide adequate
defence. If the nearest sign has been obviously vandalised the next sign should be
sought.
It is the driver's responsibility to ensure that their vehicle is parked correctly and all
restrictions are observed and adhered to at all time

Is it true that a CPZ does not require timeplates infront of the bays, and only an entry sign is sufficient? Is the entry sign situation on the entry of every road within that zone? If so, this road did not have any signs on entry stating the operation hours.

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