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Hello everyone,

I am a user of the other forum where some of you used to post, but I am new here.
I have been fighting unfair traffic offences for others in my community for a while, so I am acquainted (but not an expert) with the principles of parking contraventions and the PCN enforcement/appeal process.

I have attached a redacted 'Letter of representation' to appeal against the PCN, and I would appreciate comments: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bh_FTiFqNVr8JuJ_7Hvuj7zxkDQUHA4Y/view?usp=sharing
Pictures of PCN can be found in APPENDIX A of the appeal letter I plan to use.

Response 1 from Council: After I sent them an email asking to confirm if there is a PCN and what the grounds were: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rXvAvZnFQDQFfY4rWGgUK4r7y5Vl-pJx/view?usp=sharing
Response 2 from Council: After my online appeal submission (the appeal content is within the document): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XkMXYlGWZVjwm52M5ltx0rFb3mUW5uAX/view?usp=sharing

Could you also advise me on the next step? Should I wait for the NTO to be issued and for the appeal to be rejected by the Westminster Council (again) before I take this to the London Tribunals?

Seeking your support to fight a unique case described below,
  • Driver was on Garrick Street (Zone G). The street is littered with parking bays, which are pay by phone (paid), and resident bays
  • Driver started unloading a passenger and offloading luggage
  • When the driver looked up, they noticed a piece of paper on the wiper (as you will see in the attachment, it was not appropriately printed and not legible)
  • No CEO was around, and the contravention was not apparent due to unclear text
  • Since the PCN number was the only information clear with the vehicle VRN, the driver looked up the council's website, which showed the PCN was issued for parking in a 'residents' bay.

Surprisingly, no evidence images have been uploaded, and the council has refused to provide any since they are not required to provide any evidence.

My grounds for appeal are stated below. This is expanded upon in detail which individual sections of my letter of representation regarding this PCN.
  • GROUND 1 [Procedural Impropriety] The Driver was permitted to set down passengers and unload luggage as per the TMO and council parking policies on page 25 (para 4, 6) of the ‘City of Westminster Kerbside Management & Enforcement Code of Practice v4.0 April 2017’; this applies to both commercial and private vehicles. The Local Authority should review the evidence available to confirm this.
  • GROUND 2A [The contravention did not occur] The driver was not parked in a ‘resident bay’ and was in a ‘pay by phone’ parking bay. Garrick Street has a mixture of both resident and paid parking bays.
    The Local Authority has refused to share evidence proving their case on the balance of probabilities that the vehicle was parked in a ‘residents bay’.
  • GROUND 2B [Procedural Impropriety] The CEO did not maintain an observation period despite being required to. As shown below, CEOs are expected to maintain an observation period regardless of whether the parking bay is a ‘resident bay’ or a ‘pay by phone’ bay.
    If the driver had not accidentally been issued the PCN, they would have purchased paid parking ‘after’ the unloading activity took place. The driver left Garrick Street in shock upon noticing the PCN was issued incorrectly (without observation).
  • GROUND 3 [Procedural Impropriety] The registered keeper required reasonable accommodations for their disability, which the Local Authority should permit in providing a public service under the Equality Act 2010.
  • GROUND 4 [Unlawful enforcement] The Local Authority has incorrectly applied the lawful basis of Garrick Street being a ‘traffic-sensitive street’ as designated through the New Roads and Street Works Act 1991 (‘NRSWA 1991’).
    This prevents the Local Authority from waiving any requirements set out within its policies regarding parking enforcement.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2024, 09:00:51 pm by FaeLLe »

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@FaeLLe please read the guidance here and re-post the PCN without redacting anything.

At the moment we don't even know if there is a prima-facie contravention.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Dear @cp8759 ,

Thank you for the clarification.  Back in the day we used to redact all sensitive information hence why I took those out.

Unedited PCN as received/left on the car is enclosed.



Further details about the PCN was only obtained after Response 1 was received and using the PCN evidence site (where no images to show the location was uploaded).
« Last Edit: June 27, 2024, 08:09:13 am by FaeLLe »

Appreciate any support on this PCN please.

Appreciate any support on this PCN please.
PCN is unreadable.

+1.

OP, pl slow down. You don't even have a NTO yet, so it's a little premature to think of reams of representations.

While we're waiting, pl post a GSV pf where the vehicle was parked.

Appreciate any support on this PCN please.
PCN is unreadable.

Yes unfortunately this is how it was left on the car.

I will shortly post a GSV of where I believe the car was parked (since the council refused to clarify this by sharing any photographic evidence).

And reinstate the dates on correspondence pl.

+1.

OP, pl slow down. You don't even have a NTO yet, so it's a little premature to think of reams of representations.

While we're waiting, pl post a GSV pf where the vehicle was parked.

Google Street View: https://maps.app.goo.gl/rNoqPCWqmx3uE7CfA
The vehicle was parked on the left side of the bay where paid parking is available (i.e. where the van is shown in the picture).

I have also updated the Google Drive links above to reinstate communication dates, (alleged) contravention dates and particulars of the vehicle under discussion.

It is possible the CEO removed the images because they figured out the PCN was issued incorrectly, thinking it was a resident bay (resident bays appear before and after the few paid parking bays on the street) and with no observation period.



The pay-by-phone parking bay signage is as below

« Last Edit: June 30, 2024, 02:36:58 pm by FaeLLe »

@FaeLLe well this is a classic example of over-egging the pudding.

The PCN is invalid because much of the statutory information is missing. For completeness, please show us the back of the PCN.

We also know the council doesn't appear to have any evidence of anything aside from the self-incriminating admissions you've made in the representations (there was not reason to concede that the driver was in a ‘pay by phone’ parking bay, but we are where we are).

The biggest concern at this point is that your representation mentions the registered keeper is homeless, as the notice to owner will go to the address on the V5C. Do you have access to that address?
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

@FaeLLe well this is a classic example of over-egging the pudding.

The PCN is invalid because much of the statutory information is missing. For completeness, please show us the back of the PCN.

We also know the council doesn't appear to have any evidence of anything aside from the self-incriminating admissions you've made in the representations (there was not reason to concede that the driver was in a ‘pay by phone’ parking bay, but we are where we are).

The biggest concern at this point is that your representation mentions the registered keeper is homeless, as the notice to owner will go to the address on the V5C. Do you have access to that address?

Dear @cp8759,

Thank you for your reply.
I have not sent the Letter of Representation I linked above to the Local Authority. To avoid confusion, I have removed that document. 

The only representations sent to them are shown in the confirmation document they sent me back by email: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13_6Nnicz3mOGnuVzFgZpEaL1RTs1Sdr_/view?usp=sharing

Page 1 of the document above includes the text I typed into the online appeal system (on 17 Jun 2024).
Page 2 shows the attachment I included in the appeal system, and it is a copy of the email I sent the Local Authority on 06 Apr 2024.

The Council sent Response 1 as a follow up to my email dated 06 Apr 2024.
The document linked above confirms my representation made after receiving Response 1 from the council.
The Council sent Response 2 as a follow up to the appeal submitted online dated 06 27 Jun 2024.


I will kindly ask the current resident to help me with any mail that comes my way. Can we do anything to appeal to the Local Authority to engage in an amicable resolution under the preaction protocol, given they have a duty of candour?


Rear of the PCN as requested is included below.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2024, 08:04:04 pm by FaeLLe »

I will kindly ask the current resident to help me with any mail that comes my way.
You don't want to rely on others unless you have no choice. Do you have some other address, such as friends or family, where post could be delivered instead?

Can we do anything to appeal to the Local Authority to engage in an amicable resolution under the preaction protocol, given they have a duty of candour?
This is a PCN, it's not a judicial review. There is no pre-action protocol and there is certainly no duty of candour. The statutory process is explained here: https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/parking-penalty-charge-notice-enforcement-process

The next step is to wait for the notice to owner and then make formal representations. Given how critical the notice to owner is, I reiterate my question: do you have an alternative address where you are reliably able to obtain immediate notification of any incoming post?
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

The next step is to wait for the notice to owner and then make formal representations. Given how critical the notice to owner is, I reiterate my question: do you have an alternative address where you are reliably able to obtain immediate notification of any incoming post?

I rented out a mailbox service I could share with the Local Authority.
However, if they get my latest address from the DVLA, the mail will go to my current address, where I can access it.

Should I notify the Westminster Council of my mailing address? This could potentially ensure that they send it to the address I gave them or to the current address on the V5C.
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The notice to owner will go to the address held by DVLA, so as long as your V5C is up to date you don't need to do anything.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

GDPR request (Article 16 request) was raised with Westminster Council on 13-Aug-2024 asking them to rectify my address on records for the PCN. Email read receipt was obtained on 09-Sep-2024 from Westminster Council but no response received from the council yet.
Sent a reminder to the Westminster Council data protection team requesting an update.

NtO not received at either address (old or new) and I am on hold current with TEC to check if any debt has been registered at TEC (and if so when).