Author Topic: TFL - 46: stopped where prohibited on red route - Harben Parade, Finchley Road NW3  (Read 987 times)

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I parked in Harben Parade NW3 at 1207 on Thursday 8/1/26 to deliver one pair of glasses and collect one other pair from Vision Express.

I assumed it was OK to park briefly because the red route sign said loading was permitted between 7am-4pm. I am now being asked for evidence which I don't have.

I might be able to get Vison Express to provide confirmation that I was delivering and collecting.

Here's the link to the images of the correspondence: https://we.tl/t-WGzWHMpVzA

Thank you in advance for your help!

Robin

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Were you engaged in commercial delivery work, or was this just a private exchange ? The restriction allows loading but delivering and collecting a pair of specs hardly counts as loading, but you might get waway with it if you were a delivery driver.

No it was a pair of glasses in and a pair of glasses out and I was driving a Smart car.

No it was a pair of glasses in and a pair of glasses out and I was driving a Smart car.
Well, I don't think you'd convince an adjudicator that you were engaged in loading, but see what others say.

I think I'll just pay this one unless anyone thinks I stand a chance of getting them to let me off?

Oh dear Robin and after the triumph with the suspended bay.

I can't see much here but you can try a challenge just saying you were picking up preordered medical goods* or such like and you believe you were using the bay for its indeed purpose for local shops there. .

*Glasses...


Thank you!

Yes, what a comedown after the other victory.

I will do as you have suggested.

Hi again

Further to TFL's letter dated 14/1/26 requesting further evidence, I wrote to them on 20/1/26 explaining that I was collecting pre-ordered prescription goods and believed I was using the bay for its intended purpose.

No response to that letter and then today I received a charge certificate increasing my fine to £240 (which I definitely can't afford).

Here's a link to download my letter of 20/1/26 and the charge certificate: https://we.tl/t-RVkPuTaykd

Please would someone let me know if you have any advice.

THANK YOU!

Robin

Like so many cases on here where a CC is received, but no rejection letter for previous representations, there is a well-established process to get the matter re=set to the "representations submitted" stage.

Advice first of all is - DO NOT PAY THE CHARGE CERTIFICATE !!

Once the period for payment off the CC expires, TfL can register the PCN debt at the Traffic Enforcement Centre at Northampton. They cannot begin to collect the debt until they do this. When the register the debt, they must sent the PCN recipient an Order for Recovery in the post.  This adds £10 to the CC amount, being the TEC registration fee. The OfR will also include the form to submit a Statutory Declaration. (Form PE3). This allows the recipient to declare that he submitted representations, but did not receive a letter of rejection.  TEC will then cancel the OfR, and the CC and the matter reverts to the "reps submitted" stage.  TfL must then pass this decision to London Tribunals for a decision.  Please note that the PCN is not cancelled.

Just to clarify...

I do nothing until I receive the Order for Recovery and then use the Statutory Declaration to advise that I submitted representations with no response.

You are an angel, Incandescent, thank you!


It will be a witness statement not a statutory declaration, which is much easier.

You can keep an eye on the TFL timeline but can you make sense of this:


Couldn't see the PCN which was buried in a rather obscure file, but yes, the submission must be a Witness Statement as the PCN was served under the Traffic Management Act 2004.

Form TE9
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/62e14db38fa8f5649f912647/TE9.pdf