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Re: Test Valley, code 83 parked without display a valid ticket or parking clock, princes road long stay, EV bay
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@brightman I've fixed the Paul Bateman link above, I cannot read any of your photos as the versions you've attached are small thumbnails.

The number on the back of the PCN should be 0845 600 1586.

The order you've found is only an amending order, we need the principal one.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Test Valley, code 83 parked without display a valid ticket or parking clock, princes road long stay, EV bay
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@cp8759 Sorry I can't find the principal parking places order on Test Valley Council website. Do you know where I can obtain it? I tried to reattach the photos.






For the appealing ground, my first ground is the contravention does no occur? I read the cases about the premium rate telephone cost and I didn't quite catch it. Is this a second ground I shall use? Thanks!
« Last Edit: May 05, 2024, 08:37:25 pm by brightman »
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Re: Test Valley, code 83 parked without display a valid ticket or parking clock, princes road long stay, EV bay
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I have found this Order in the TRO library on the Traffic Penalty Tribunal website. Para 36.2 refers to EVs
https://tro.trafficpenaltytribunal.gov.uk/TRO/Test%20Valley/TS62.pdf
Of course there is no guarantee this is the latest Order, and the TPT page states that councils are not obliged to supply their TROs to the TPT.
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Re: Test Valley, code 83 parked without display a valid ticket or parking clock, princes road long stay, EV bay
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I've requested the latest parking places order from the council, so we should have it by the time you need to make representations. Helpfully the 0845 number is still there.

Quote from: brightman on May 05, 2024, 08:28:14 pm
For the appealing ground, my first ground is the contravention does no occur? I read the cases about the premium rate telephone cost and I didn't quite catch it. Is this a second ground I shall use? Thanks!

Don't worry about that, post the notice to owner on here when you get it and we will draft a representation for you.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Test Valley, code 83 parked without display a valid ticket or parking clock, princes road long stay, EV bay
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@Incandescent @cp8759 Thank you! I will post it when my husband got it.
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Re: Test Valley, code 83 parked without display a valid ticket or parking clock, princes road long stay, EV bay
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Reply from the council:



With 20% VAT that comes to 5p per minute.
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Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Test Valley, code 83 parked without display a valid ticket or parking clock, princes road long stay, EV bay
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@cp8759 Thanks! So they charge 5p/min for people to pay for the PCN. :( 
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Re: Test Valley, code 83 parked without display a valid ticket or parking clock, princes road long stay, EV bay
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Quote from: brightman on May 09, 2024, 08:54:03 pm
@cp8759 Thanks! So they charge 5p/min for people to pay for the PCN. :(
Yes, which means that this is an exact replica of the Paul Bateman case.
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Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Test Valley, code 83 parked without display a valid ticket or parking clock, princes road long stay, EV bay
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Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Test Valley, code 83 parked without display a valid ticket or parking clock, princes road long stay, EV bay
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@cp8759 thank you so much for looking this for me. I got a letter today from Test Valley council. They reconsidered my mitigation situation and given it was my first time to have the offence, they withdrew the ticket as a gesture of goodwill. My husband won't get the NTO. We can close the case. Thanks again for everyone on this forum.
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Re: Test Valley, code 83 parked without display a valid ticket or parking clock, princes road long stay, EV bay
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That's a great result, thanks for letting us know the outcome.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Test Valley, code 83 parked without display a valid ticket or parking clock, princes road long stay, EV bay
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Well done, although I don't think they cancelled out of the goodness of their hearts !
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