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Southwark, 52 m failing to comply with prohibition on certain types of vehicle, larcom street
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Hi,

I received PCN (JK11771906) on 17/7/24 for alleged contravention. I realised my mistake after a while and immediately reversed out of the street. I saw a similar post https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/luton-pcn-contravention-code-01-parked-in-restricted-street-during-prescribed-ho/?prev_next=prev#new on the forum and sent an appeal as advised in that post.

This is what I've written : I challenge liability based on de-minimis: as the video recording you have on hand, I realised my mistake and immediately reversed out. I did not therefore gain any advantage over other motorists and no traffic management purpose would be served by enforcing this PCN.

I hope you could advise me further.
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I received PCN (JK11771906) on 17/7/24

As it is dated 17th, you must have received it later?

Please post the remaining sides of the PCN (often mistakes in the 'small print'), and links to the video and to the GSV.

If you have not yet seen it, there is guidance on posting here
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
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And the date of the Notice of Rejection as they say the price will increase on Monday 12th August having checked the status. So we need to see if this is correct.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2024, 07:04:33 pm by Hippocrates »
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https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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Hi,

The date of alleged contravention is 12/7/24. I received the notice on 18/7/24.

Here, I attached the other pages that came together with the PCN, which is for representation.

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We need to see the Notice of Rejection please.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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Hi,

I'm sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I haven't received the notice of rejection. They said they would reply within 21 days from the date of representation which should be next Friday.
 
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The emboldened part is illegal and flies in the face of the statutory process.


Penalty Charge Notice details
• Ticket Reference
JK11771906
• Your PCN is at discount stage. PCN process information
• Vehicle Registration Number
DE12YDR
• Colour
WHITE
• Make
MAZDA
• Contravention
52m - Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles)

• Location
LARCOM STREET JUNCTION ETHEL STREET

• First seen at
Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:32
• Issued at
Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:32
• Served by
Post
The amount outstanding on the Penalty Charge Notice will increase to £130.00 very soon. Please pay £65.00 now.
We received your representation on Thu, 25 Jul 2024 and we will reply in due course. You do not need to make representations again.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2024, 08:51:35 pm by Hippocrates »
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https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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No sign of reversing back just past so it's a technicality you're after.

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I have received the rejection notice last week. I did reverse out but not in the video above.

here is the reply from Southwark council.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c3ywNT9dg4Y-6vHXkW591Jnw0V5FsE_q/view?usp=sharing

Do you think it is possible to still appeal or I will not make a case and should just pay the fine?
« Last Edit: August 31, 2024, 03:15:04 pm by nr14 »
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Sure as hell you appeal it!  I will PM my details to offer representation.

Penalty Charge Notice details
Ticket ReferenceJK11771906
Your PCN is at full rate stage. PCN process information
Vehicle Registration NumberDE12YDR
ColourWHITE
MakeMAZDA
Contravention52m - Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles)
LocationLARCOM STREET JUNCTION ETHEL STREET
First seen atFri, 12 Jul 2024 18:32
Issued atFri, 12 Jul 2024 18:32
Served byPost
The amount outstanding on the Penalty Charge Notice will increase to £195.00 on Tue, 17 Sep 2024. Please pay £65.00 now.
You have already made representations for this PCN and we replied on Tue, 27 Aug 2024. You cannot make representations twice.

****

This is illegal, pressurising and bullying bolleaux.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2024, 10:04:07 pm by Hippocrates »
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https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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μολὼν λαβέ  8)
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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On the case.
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https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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