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Just woundering if i have any chance to appeal both these fines.

So i been Sheffield plenty of times but i have not been there since start of the year, so recently in may i think they made this road into a bus gate which to be fair i would have never known what it meant unless i got a ticket. I live in Aylesbury and we only have standard bus lanes i never heard of a bus gate till i got these fines.

I was not aware of the bus gate till i got these fines and i would never gone through it if i knew about it and i did not go once but twice in like 45 minutes.
I have been down this road plenty of times in the past but just recently they changed it but i am not from Sheffield so the residents know but how could i especially when i been down this road enough times in the past.

So my questions are do i have any chance when trying to defend the fine for the above reason and can i link both the fines to appeal once or do i need appeal separately and just add the other fines information in, also what are the chances of one being dropped as i do not mind paying one but think it will be unfair to pay 2 especially when it happend so close to each other.

Also i been told the fines should come within 2 weeks if not you can appeal for that reason and the fines can be dropped is that true?

I have also tried seen the evidence online on their website but there is nothing online.

I do know the area quite well but i am not sure where about the bus lane starts as i can only see the pictures that are on pcn paper.

I have also uploaded pics of the fines below.


Thanks

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It's not at all clear where this bus gate is, because GSV has a number of views of different years. On the latest, I can't even see a bus gate sign. Here's GSV for May 2023 showing the exit to Arundel Gate off the roundabout. You can see the warning on the sign. The gate is 150 yrds ahead

Then you have this sign

how you get to the Novotel is a mystery as you mustn't drive past the bus gate sign. Maybe Novotel guests are authorised !
However, it's all a bit puzzling because as you get to the traffic lights, there are no bus gate signs at all ! GSV still with the same year and month.  So where is this bus gate ?

So what we really need is up-to-date photos.

I suppose what you could do is submit representations stating that you didn't pass any bus gate, and none are shown on Google Street View dated March 2023

You might also care to look at the video, the sole evidence of the alleged contravention, download it and post it here.

Try pressing the "Pay PCN" button. As well as providing payment a payment page, it normally allows access to photos and videos. Don't worry, a hand won't come out of the screen and grab your wallet !

The links below are just visa and mastercard links as seen in this full screenshoot

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This advance sign would probably kybosh any reps you submit based on inadequate signage

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3465438,-2.9735898,3a,75y,294.9h,78.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWtPFspuniyuPsOdWvK8U0w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

This is one by me. Loads and loads got fined because their defence was basically "I've always gone that way", which I've zero sympathy for as that's not an excuse for disregarding road signs.

Argue it, as insufficient signs is a good one for getting them overturned, but I think you're dead to rights, sadly.

I am just trying to say i been that way in the past and i had no problems but as they put the bus gate recently and i am not from the area how am i suppose to know as even kn google maps i cannot see the bus gate written on the road anywhere.

The bus gate has only recently been put there

https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/call-to-refund-39000-sheffield-arundel-gate-bus-gate-penalties-4391806

Here is the close up of the bus gate picture on the pcn letter i cannot see no other picture or videos online, on google maps there is no bus gate written on that road anywhere.

Hard to tell because of the fold in the paper, but if that's a picture of your car driving past the words BUS GATE and the big yellow and blue sign on the left, I don't think you have a leg to stand on.

Sorry but need all the help i can get, so i can use post 9 from bubucar from pepipoo?

So all of what i screenshoted below?

I think tommorow will be the last day to appeal as the date posted was 23rd october.

Thanks

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