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Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum, I'm seeking help because I received multiple pcn in London one in Hvering and 2-3(they'll arrive for sure) in Barking & Dagenam

This one in Havering is for Route used only by bus and cycles (33C) I took the wrong road, I saw the signals and I didn't proceed through the road and from the images it's clearly visible I just reversed and with the car while reversing I crossed the entrance line by 1.5-2 meters, from the images can clearly see me reversing and not going through.

I attached pics, were you can clearly see I reverse. Could please someone help? can I challenge it? many thanks for your time and consideration.

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Re: Please help, Multiple PCN
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Post the Havering PCN hiding only name and address

You'll need to start a new thread for Barking.
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Re: Please help, Multiple PCN
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Post the Havering PCN hiding only name and address

You'll need to start a new thread for Barking.

Thank you Sir, here I added the photo.

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Re: PCN - Havering
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This one I think is trivial at most and it's clear you were reversing out. Should be a win if they take you to the tribunal.

There are other cases like this.


Re: Please help, Multiple PCN
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Post the Havering PCN hiding only name and address

You'll need to start a new thread for Barking.
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And the remaining page please.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2024, 07:39:35 pm by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

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Re: Please help, Multiple PCN
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Post the Havering PCN hiding only name and address

You'll need to start a new thread for Barking.
.
And the remaining page please.

here thanks. What should I do?

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« Last Edit: November 19, 2024, 02:47:08 pm by Sandymarton »

Re: PCN - Havering
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In have two cases tomorrow re the wording. Please also screenshot as if to make a representation and report back the grounds page.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: PCN - Havering
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In have two cases tomorrow re the wording. Please also screenshot as if to make a representation and report back the grounds page.

Sorry Sir, but I didn't get what did you ask me to do, do you want me to scan properly the documents and send it to you? What do you mean for "screenshot as if to make a representation and report back the grounds"? thanks for your time and patience.

Re: PCN - Havering
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In have two cases tomorrow re the wording. Please also screenshot as if to make a representation and report back the grounds page.


Hi Sir, sorry, I didn't get what do you want me to do, thanks

Re: PCN - Havering
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Using the webcode, go to the website AS IF to challenge. Then screenshot what the grounds page says.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: PCN - Havering
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Using the webcode, go to the website AS IF to challenge. Then screenshot what the grounds page says.


I went to the representation page
these are the screenshots. I have time till Friday to challenge I received the pcn two weeks ago on Friday
what should I do?




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Re: PCN - Havering
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ok I m challenging myself guys, I can't wait that the period of 14 days expires....

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ok I m challenging myself guys, I can't wait that the period of 14 days expires....should I challenge informal or formal challenge?

Re: PCN - Havering
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ok I m challenging myself guys, I can't wait that the period of 14 days expires....should I challenge informal or formal challenge?

London Borough of Havering
Parking Services

Subject: Formal Representation for PCN Number [HG61520408]

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to formally challenge the above Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) issued for an alleged contravention of “using a route restricted to certain vehicles - buses and cycles only” at Celtic Farm Road RM13 / Old Station Lane RM13 on 26/10/2024.

I request that the PCN be cancelled for the following reasons:
   1.   No Actual Contravention Took Place:
Upon reviewing the evidence provided, it is clear that my vehicle did not proceed through the restricted area. The footage shows my vehicle reversing into the road momentarily, crossing the demarcation line for a very short distance. This was an unintentional maneuver as I was attempting to adjust my vehicle’s position and drive away from the area. At no point did my vehicle traverse through or use the restricted road as a means of travel.
Entering the restricted area momentarily while reversing does not constitute “using” the route as defined under the Traffic Management Act 2004. The purpose of the restriction is to prevent vehicles from traveling through the road, which I did not do.
   2.   Lack of Clarity in the Evidence:
The footage does not provide sufficient context to suggest any intent to contravene the restriction. The maneuver captured in the footage was not deliberate use of the restricted road but rather an adjustment of my vehicle’s position. The minimal incursion into the restricted zone while reversing is an insignificant event that does not align with the intent or purpose of the restriction.
   3.   Mitigating Circumstances:
The maneuver was carried out due to the layout of the road, and there was no intention to misuse the restricted area. I made efforts to correct my positioning and promptly drove away without using the restricted road. Penalizing such a brief, incidental action that caused no disruption undermines the fairness of enforcement in this instance.

For these reasons, I respectfully request that the PCN be cancelled. The evidence clearly shows that no contravention occurred in the spirit of the restriction, and my actions do not justify the penalty.


Thank you for your consideration of this representation. I look forward to your response.

Yours sincerely,
[Your Name]
[Contact Information]

Re: PCN - Havering
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It's too long and repetitive. I would just send this.

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I am challenging the PCN as the alleged contravention did not occur.

I have reviewed your CCTV evidence and it shows me carrying out a manoeuvre where I reversed out of the start of the road without proceeding through the restriction.

I look forward to your early cancellation of this PCN.