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A couple of days back I have got a PCN from the London Borough of Brent, the first page of the notice  which goes something like this

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The London Borough of Brent believes that you are liable to pay a penalty charge with respect to the above vehicle, for the following alleged Contravention Code 53J .
Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone

In XXXXXX HA3 on 18/03/2024 of 15:XX hours The alleged contravention was noted by an enforcement officer who was observing real time pictures from a roadside camera at  the time stated

DO NOT IGNORE THIS NOTICE You are legally responsible for dealing with this notice. Do not pass this notice to the driver

A PCN of £130.00 is now payable and must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of this notice (Date of service is considered to be 2 working days from the date of the Notice.) If it is paid before end of the period of 14 days beginning with the date of this notice the amount payable is reduced to £65.00 Payment should be sent to London Borough of Brent (Parking Services), PO Box 210, Sheffield, S98 1NE (See overleaf for more details of how to pay).

OR, if you believe you have a good reason not to pay the PCN, you should write to us explaining why (see the Representations section overleaf). Although there are specific legal grounds for making representations, we will consider exercising our discretion and may cancel the notice if there are suitable mitigating circumstances (i.e. if we believe that there is a good enough reason). We may disregard any representations received after the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this PCN. We may then send you a Charge Certificate seeking payment of this increase amount



Now the vehicle was handed over to the garage on the 13thMarch as the engine light was lighting up amber. They suggested that the timing chain has to be replaced and some other aspects.  I collected the car at around 17:00 hrs on 18/03/2024  from the garage and have TFL proof about the travel to the garage for the same. In short I wasn't the person driving it at the time of the incident . I haven't informed the garage yet about it as the next page of the notice is a bit confusing .

The 2nd page of the notice says

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Representations:
As mentioned above, if there is any reason why you think you should not have to pay the PCN, please tell us and give details in the space provided below. You may make representations to us against the issuing of the PCN online at www.brent.gov.uk/parking or by post to London Borough of Brent (Parking Services), Box 210, Sheffield, S98 1NE or via email parking.reps@brent.gov.uk. Please include any available supporting evidence. Representations must include the name, postal address and signature of the person making them. If representations are made online then the name of the person making them must be entered, and will be taken to be the signature of that person. The London Borough of Brent may disregard any representations received outside the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of the PCN. The statutory grounds for making representations are listed below. Whether or not any of the statutory grounds apply, you may also give other compelling reasons why we should cancel the penalty charge or refund any sum paid on account of the penalty charge.

The statutory grounds for representation are:

 option A>  I was never the owner of the vehicle in question, or had ceased to be its owner before the date on which the penalty charge was alleged to have become payable; or became its owner after that date if you sold the vehicle before the date of the contravention or bought it after the date, you must tell us the name and address of the person who bought it from you or sold it to you, if you know it. Please supply whatever evidence of the sale you may have (e.g. a sales receipt).

option B> There was no contravention of a prescribed order, or failure to comply with an indication-please explain why you think there was no contravention of a traffic order or why there was no failure to drive the vehicle in the way shown on the sign.

option C>At the time the alleged contravention or failure took place the person who was in control of the vehicle was in control of the vehicle without my consent-if the vehicle had been stolen, please provide details of the police crime reference number.

option D>We are a vehicle-hire firm and the vehicle in question was at the material time hired from that firm under a vehicle hiring agreement; and the person hiring it had signed a statement of liability acknowledging their liability in respect of any penalty charge notice issued in respect of the vehicle during the currency of the hiring agreement-please supply a copy of the signed agreement including the name and address of the hirer.

option E>The penalty charge exceeded the amount applicable in the circumstances of the case - if you think you are being asked to pay more than you should legally pay.

To me option C> seems the closest. However the vehicle was not stolen but handed over to the garage, though I don't think that gives consent to drive around  ( not sure if it was test-drive or whatever ) .

  As I haven't contacted the garage yet, I would like to know the thoughts of the forum members before I approach the garage and reply to this notice.
Thanks in advance.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2024, 10:37:56 pm by ziran »

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The law for issue of PCNs for various traffic and parking contraventions makes the owner of the vehicle responsible for payment or appeal, not the driver.

So you are responsible and cannot pass the matter to the garage. Option C is not available to you because you passed the vehicle to the garage and this will have been under the terms of an agreement. This garage may have needed to undertake a test drive and their mechanic has inadvertantly driven past a "Flying Motorbike" sign

The situation is a bit like letting one's son or daughter drive one's car and they do the same thing as this garage seem to have done. If you lose an appeal you have to pay, and deal with your son or daughter regarding the money. So it's between you and the garage, and I suggest you need to contact them urgently to find out what has gone on. In all fairness the garage should reimburse you if they accept the offence occurred.

Please let us see the pcn itself, cover up only your name and address. I may have a signage argument
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Where is the garage located as regards the contravention point?

Is a test drive necessary or do we have a TWOC argument like this one:-

2230281180 Sadiq Abubakar v London Borough of Ealing

The Appellant attended in person. The Appellant's friend and witness Tasnim Hoque also attended. The Enforcement Authority did not attend and had not been expected.


The Appellant explained that his vehicle was collected for repairs by 22 Motors, a mechanic, on Monday 24 April 2023. The Appellant did not get his vehicle back from 22 Motors until 28 April 2023. The Appellant explained that he selected 22 Motors as they had a service where they collected your vehicle from you and returned it, after completion of the work, within 24 - 48 hours. The Appellant needed repair to a scratch and the body work of the vehicle, and a lower bumper to be replaced.

The Appellant told me that he has a tracking device on his vehicle, and he noticed that after the vehicle was collected from his then address on 24 April at 12:10 (HA1 4HA) it had been moved to different locations at 15:35; 18:56;

19:49; 22:25 and 22:48 on that date. The tracking device shows that it was moved on 25 April 2023 at 12:45; 13:30; 13:57 and 14:08. The Appellant telephoned the mechanic to ask them why they had been using his vehicle beyond simply driving it to the garage. The Appellant was told that the mechanic had to collect paint samples, and supplies for repairs, but that if any charges were incurred the mechanic would pay for them. The Appellant told me that he was particularly concerned about the night time journeys in case the vehicle was damaged.

The Appellant showed me the tracking entries for the week 24 April to 28 April, which showed the above times and entries and the relevant postcodes. I directed that screenshots of the complete entries be submitted by email to the Tribunal so that they could be uploaded to the system. The Appellant explained that the images from the tracking system that he had already submitted were copies of the entries sent to 22 Motors, which were only for the Tuesday 25 April as it was that date which the PCN was issued. The final entry on 25 April, at 14:08 is for postcode TW5 9HA, which is where 22 Motors is, on Vicarage Road. This was supported by a Google search Ms Hoque showed me on her mobile telephone using that postcode.

The entry for 13:57 on 25 April 2023, shows postcode UB1 1NT as the starting point. This is the location of the alleged contravention. I find that the entry shows that the vehicle was driven from the location of the alleged contravention at about 13:32 to arrive in its next location and park at 13:57. This is consistent with the Civil Enforcement Officer's photographs, which show the vehicle being driven away at 13:32 on 25 April.

Ms Hoque gave evidence relating to messages that she received from the Appellant on the date of the vehicle being collected and telephone conversations that she had with various individuals at 22 Motors. Ms Hoque confirmed that the Appellant told her about discovering on his tracker that the vehicle was being moved without his consent after collection. Ms Hoque told me that she interprets for her father and has had a lot of contact with garages in doing so, so she telephoned 22 Motors on the Appellant's behalf to ask that they pay the penalty charge. The Appellant described speaking to different people who contradicting themselves and each other by telling her that they were the owner, or the manager.

The Appellant told me that he has also challenged the fee, which he was required to pay to 22 Motors for release of his car, with the Motor Ombudsman. The Appellant has submitted a copy of his complaint to the Ombudsman, which was consistent with his account of events today. The Appellant mentions in that statement that he found his sunglasses to have been taken, and his chewing gum to have been replaced.

I found the Appellant and Ms Hoque to be compelling and reliable witnesses.

It is normally the case that the registered keeper is liable for a penalty charge. However, there are some exceptions. One of these is where the vehicle is taken without the owner's consent. This is usually the case where a vehicle has been stolen. Liability does not normally pass, and is not normally avoided, where a registered keeper has given their vehicle to a mechanic for repair. However, in the present case, based on the evidence, I find that the mechanic far exceeded any circumstances of use of the vehicle which would be expected in the process of carrying out repairs. I do not find the mechanic's explanation to the Appellant, that they went to Tesco and to collect a paint sample, sufficient explanation for nine different trips including at night time. The evidence from the tracker shows that the mechanic, or someone on behalf of 22 Motors, for their own transport, unrelated to the repairs, over the course of 24 and 25 April 2023. I therefore find that at the time of the alleged contravention the vehicle had been taken without the Appellant's consent.

I therefore allow this appeal

Mike

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