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Phboi

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PCN from Lewisham Council
« on: July 31, 2024, 04:56:53 pm »
I have received 5 PCN from Lewisham for failing to comply with with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian only zone.

This is a new sign that the council has installed. I have always driven on this road and never got a ticket.

Do i have any chance of an appeal based on the fact that it is impossible to see this sign when driving?
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Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2024, 04:58:27 pm »
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John U.K.

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Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2024, 05:17:05 pm »
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Do i have any chance of an appeal based on the fact that it is impossible to see this sign when driving?
We need to a see a picture of this sign and its context.

Please post a GSV link to the location, even though I suspect it'll be out of date.
Please also re-instate reg.mark and PCN number.
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Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2024, 06:20:59 pm »
« Last Edit: July 31, 2024, 06:23:53 pm by Phboi »
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Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2024, 06:53:00 pm »
School street zone - sign looks clear.

« Last Edit: July 31, 2024, 06:54:57 pm by stamfordman »
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Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2024, 09:28:28 pm »
This will be a technical appeal. I will explain later as they tend to mess up the process when an appeal is registered. Totally disproportionate number of PCNs.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

Phboi

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Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2024, 10:30:42 am »
What do you mean by technical appeal?
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Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2024, 11:34:46 am »
Arguments about how they deal with the representations as well as the signage. Please post up a draft regarding the signage and number of PCNs. I expect you did not realise you had travelled down this route until you received the first PCN. Was there any warning signage? Can you make a video of the route showing the height of the sign as the driver would see?
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

John U.K.

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Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2024, 11:41:57 am »
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Signage: https://imgur.com/a/ckemiBt

Sadly this sign could be anywhere :(

By 'in context' I meant could you get a photo of the sign in it surroundings, as you've claimed it was invisible.
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Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2024, 12:51:12 pm »
Council pics of signage and locations - there are no doubt restriction signs on both sides of the road on both approaches. Looks to me both drivers were speeding and oblivious to warnings and signs - it was a school safety zone before but that wasn't working so they've made a lot of roads outside schools into time-controlled restrictions.

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