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I am appealing this PCN on the following grounds grounds.

It would appear that the size of the box is too long.  The corners of the junction have a very wide radius, but it is not necessary for the box to cover that both corners.  Indeed it appears that the Yellow Box Junction does not conform to the regulations as set out in the Transport Signs, Regulations and General Directions 2016.

At the corners the footways are, for want of a better term, shared. As the purpose of a box junction relates to vehicles and not pedestrians then in my opinion it is more logical to consider the extent of the side road as terminating where the 'Give Way' road markings end, which is well before the end of the YBJ.  Given the traffic flow ahead and the size of the side road.  I was confident if the other drivers had taken up their space I would have cleared the junction and only encroached on a part of the box that does not conform to the regulations of being marked only at the junction area of the two roads

No obstruction to other traffic was caused, indeed you can see a car pulling out from the side turning and turning right without any impediment.

The white car in front of mine proceeded over the box junction and then stopped when there was no need to and I had expected to clear the box junction had  the driver have moved up as they should have.

Barnet have refused to accept that their box is too large and doesn't comply with the regulations.

There is a decision re Kingston box junction which is similar...


Case reference  2230056005
Appellant  Jeff Baker
Authority  Royal Borough of Kingston Upon Thames

Contravention location  KINGSTON ROAD
Penalty amount  GBP 130.00
Contravention  Entering and stopping in a box junction
 
Decision Date  28 Feb 2023
Adjudicator  Andrew Harman
Appeal decision  Appeal allowed
Direction  cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.

Reasons  Upon the appellant making submissions as to the extent of box junction markings supporting evidence being provided.


This box junction is not only marked at the junction between these two roads but also in advance and beyond that junction.

It is not therefore marked in compliance with The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 this penalty charge thus being unenforceable.

The appeal is accordingly allowed.


Also, the period for making an appeal itself is misstated as is the council's power to issue a Charge Certificate both of which must be 'no later than the end of the period of 28 days beginning on the date of service of the NOR'

It would appear that the authority (Barnet) shows a lack of understanding of the law, I base this on there being a lack of cogent reasons to rebut the argument regarding the extent of the yellow box junction and also missinformation regarding my rights of appeal. and therefore I consider that the appeal should be allowed.

Trying to find a case re "within" apart from Al's Bar. 2160257053 is the nearest which criticises the NOR.

This case does not support the argument:

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/merton-31j-box-junction-violation-durnsford-road/msg37478/#msg37478